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TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy
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#22How do we kill TikTok?
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#23There is more complaining about kids making tiktok videos then there was about them making super offensive memes on 4chan.
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#24Point: Tobacco is especially bad for young children. Therefore we must restrict it for children.
Counterpoint: Caffeine is bad, too. Therefore, should we also outlaw Coca-Cola for children?
The argument that "TikTok is no worse than other social media" is the Counterpoint.
TikTok is very bad for children and adolescents, and we should do the difficult-but-honorable thing and prevent them from using it. If that's difficult, TikTok will have to deal with it.
I suspect that the EU will do this.
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#25How do we kill TikTok?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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#26As far as I can tell, TikTok scares like these are 30% standard social media moral panic, 70% jingoism. Everyone knows that they are paying for TikTok with their data and a few hundred million people (myself included) are okay with that calculus and making a rational, informed decision to continue using the product.
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#27Point: Tobacco is especially bad for young children. Therefore we must restrict it for children. Counterpoint: Caffeine is bad, too. Therefore, should we also outlaw Coca-Cola for children? The argument that "TikTok is no worse than other social media" is the Counterpoint. TikTok is very bad for children and adolescents, and we should do the difficult-but-honorable thing and prevent them from using it. If that's diff…
I don't want to sound pedantic or smug, but I think maybe coca-cola should be banned for children too. Perhaps not illegal but just not for sale for children. I think social media should be similar. 16+ at least
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it does not apply just as well to almost any social media. TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity. Best not to throw this on the pile of “well duh, it’s social media — of course it’s bad.” TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. TikTok must be regulated. Let’s talk about TikTok in this comments section, and not zoom out like we so often do.
> TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. In what unique ways is TikTok compromising privacy that Facebook isn't that warrants the labels of "spyware" and being "the adversary?"
Because it's Chinese and therefore Evil, of course /s
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#29Point: Tobacco is especially bad for young children. Therefore we must restrict it for children. Counterpoint: Caffeine is bad, too. Therefore, should we also outlaw Coca-Cola for children? The argument that "TikTok is no worse than other social media" is the Counterpoint. TikTok is very bad for children and adolescents, and we should do the difficult-but-honorable thing and prevent them from using it. If that's diff…
Props for using tobacco in your example and not nicotine.
I'm sick of explaining to people that tobacco is/contains a bunch of awful carcinogens and will slowly kill you whereas nicotine in isolation is practically harmless, if addictive.
(Note to downvoters: this isn't some stealth argument in favour of vaping - obviously those have a bunch of extra factors outside of the nicotine, and in relationship to the addictiveness of the nicotine that should be evaluated when determining safety too).
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#30Applies just as well to almost any social media. The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.
No it does not apply just as well to almost any social media. TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity. Best not to throw this on the pile of “well duh, it’s social media — of course it’s bad.” TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. TikTok must be regulated. Let’s talk about TikTok in this comments section, and not zoom out like we so often do.
> TikTok is an adversary.
In my book there are many adversaries and TikTok is only an item in a set of adversaries. The solution is to look at the set, this is not zoom out.
There are many children who are target to pederastians in Instagram and we can also say that they should be regulated and/or take this very seriously improving their alerts.