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TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Have you used TikTok? I have and uninstalled it after a while. It feels like it takes all the bad elements of social media to the extreme. It's highly addictive, more so than other social networks, contains extremely shallow content, and can be very manipulative. I agree all social media can exhibit these traits to a degree, but TikTok at least for me really took it to the extreme.

I always have a laugh when people say TikTok has x-type content. The truth is it has that type of content _for you_. Because it's what you engaged with. TikTok has lots of great content, but some people really don't like what they see in the mirror.

It's hard to believe anything of real value can be communicated in such a constrained format, but would you care to share any tiktoks that are actually worth risking a hugely time-wasting addiction for?

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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This guy has found out the benefits/features of free social media. I don't know why he bothers to mention the name. It could as well be Meta(FB, Instagram) or TW. The last part is really laughable... >> There is also the matter of lack of consent, as children are sometimes too small to understand what is going on .... That being said I believe in the EU at least they will have to change a few things.

Have you used TikTok? I have and uninstalled it after a while. It feels like it takes all the bad elements of social media to the extreme. It's highly addictive, more so than other social networks, contains extremely shallow content, and can be very manipulative. I agree all social media can exhibit these traits to a degree, but TikTok at least for me really took it to the extreme.

It sounds like thats the end of content you tend to engage with to be honest. My tiktok tends to be filled with comedy, music, and people telling stories about their lives.

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Applies just as well to almost any social media. The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.

No it does not apply just as well to almost any social media. TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity. Best not to throw this on the pile of “well duh, it’s social media — of course it’s bad.” TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. TikTok must be regulated. Let’s talk about TikTok in this comments section, and not zoom out like we so often do.

> TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary.

In what unique ways is TikTok compromising privacy that Facebook isn't that warrants the labels of "spyware" and being "the adversary?"

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always have a laugh when people say TikTok has x-type content. The truth is it has that type of content _for you_. Because it's what you engaged with. TikTok has lots of great content, but some people really don't like what they see in the mirror.

It's hard to believe anything of real value can be communicated in such a constrained format, but would you care to share any tiktoks that are actually worth risking a hugely time-wasting addiction for?

If you use tiktok then you already know what tiktoks are worth your time.

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always have a laugh when people say TikTok has x-type content. The truth is it has that type of content _for you_. Because it's what you engaged with. TikTok has lots of great content, but some people really don't like what they see in the mirror.

It's hard to believe anything of real value can be communicated in such a constrained format, but would you care to share any tiktoks that are actually worth risking a hugely time-wasting addiction for?

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Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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This guy has found out the benefits/features of free social media. I don't know why he bothers to mention the name. It could as well be Meta(FB, Instagram) or TW. The last part is really laughable... >> There is also the matter of lack of consent, as children are sometimes too small to understand what is going on .... That being said I believe in the EU at least they will have to change a few things.

Have you used TikTok? I have and uninstalled it after a while. It feels like it takes all the bad elements of social media to the extreme. It's highly addictive, more so than other social networks, contains extremely shallow content, and can be very manipulative. I agree all social media can exhibit these traits to a degree, but TikTok at least for me really took it to the extreme.

I trained mine to not be shallow. I’m getting bite sized macroeconomics and pickleball lessons now. And this random corn song keeps showing up though.

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Applies just as well to almost any social media. The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.

No it does not apply just as well to almost any social media. TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity. Best not to throw this on the pile of “well duh, it’s social media — of course it’s bad.” TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. TikTok must be regulated. Let’s talk about TikTok in this comments section, and not zoom out like we so often do.

Lay the crack pipe down.

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Applies just as well to almost any social media. The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.

>The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.

You could say the same about the internet, even pre-broadband, as anyone who spend significant time on websites, message boards, etc during the 90s and 2000s (or earlier with Usenet, IRC, etc) could attest to. Shall we just do away with the whole thing then?

Re: TikTok is manipulative, addictive, and harmful to privacy

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Applies just as well to almost any social media. The worst thing is that these apps addict one to unrealistic expectations and instant gratifications. Digital tobacco.

No it does not apply just as well to almost any social media. TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity. Best not to throw this on the pile of “well duh, it’s social media — of course it’s bad.” TikTok is spyware. TikTok is an adversary. TikTok must be regulated. Let’s talk about TikTok in this comments section, and not zoom out like we so often do.

>TikTok is unique in its control of the user experience, its use of data, and its popularity.

How so? I don't use TikTok, so I might not be aware and I would appreciate you expanding on what you're asserting here.

What is it doing different than other social media in regards to the control of user experience?

What data practices are employed which are different and worse than the other social medias? Is it just where the data is going, i.e. the 'wrong' people have the data? Or are they capturing more data than, say, FB is?

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