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Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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This headline is clickbait. Zuck said the FBI warned him of potential Russian propaganda during the election. Then, Zuck and his crew slowed down the spread until it was validated.

This entire discussion here is based on a false narrative, it goes off into rants of political discourse that were not true in regards to this story.

The only reason it was censored is because it fit a profile of what was expected to come. Almost all the conjecture from headline readers is covered in the podcast.

The conclusion is, if you want raw data, you can find it. 4chan is right there is you seek it. But big social media sites are not the wild-west everyone THINKS they want.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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Would you be happy about your brother sleeping with your wife after you die? I mean, I've got an uncle-father in my ancestry, but it's considered gauche these days.

I don’t believe that I can be upset about anything after I die. Life is for the living.

What about before you die?

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Citation needed? Hmm. I'm unsure on the whole style guide, but I suggest this site for a good breakdown on Chomsky's various evasions and surgically crafted half-truths about the Vietnam War and its aftermath: https://reaction.la/chomsdis.htm

Also from the same site, he refers to Chomsky's deceptions about what his past beliefs actually were: https://reaction.la/ChomskyLiesCites/ChomskyLiesAboutHisPast...

Since you are the one making the accusations, can you actually cite noam chomsky's articles/interviews instead of linking to 3rd parties that simply repeat accusations.

99% of chomsky takedowns are about what the accuser imagines what chomsky thinks, or would have said and how awful he is. Just quote chomsky directly to buttress any specific accusations you have instead sending people down citation free word salads.

I can link to 100 random articles to refute your 100 random articles as well.

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I'm curious - does that also apply to Donald Trump who himself had dealings with those countries as well as several of his children, and removed classified documents to his own house where foreign agents were known to frequent?

Everyone should be held to the same standard. That means me, that means Reality Winner[1], that means Hillary Clinton, that means Hunter Biden, and yes, that means Donald Trump. But what we are seeing from what SHOULD BE our impartial law enforcement agencies is that small fish get the hammer, and Donald Trump gets his house raided. Why wasn't there a raid on the Clinton residence after the server scandal? Why hasn't…

I wonder what it would look like if the FBI was impartial? Is it possible that perhaps each situation is individual and the consequences meted out to each person would be different?

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Do we really have to pretend that anyone cares about this any more? Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it. That's why your faux outrage falls on deaf ears now - no one believes that you have any standards.

> Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it And Democrats just proved they don't either. So maybe Democrats should take this opportunity to prove they aren't hypocrites instead of acting just like the other side they're criticizing.

Which party claims to be all about individual responsibility and law and order? Perhaps the conservatives’ embrace of post modernist nihilism has consequences beyond themselves?

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And you think having a relative with shady deals is disqualifying for public office? And what illegal activities was Hunter up to?

The issue is less the shady deals and more the fact that the shady deals were brokered in part by the big guy, Joe, himself as vice president.

And the laptop proved that?

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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They have acknowledged that some of the data on it is quite real, and were able to verify many emails. As your link confirms, they also found that folders with names like "Biden Burisma" and "Salacious Pics Package" were added in September 2020...

We don't really need the laptop to connect Joe Biden to Burisma (prosecutor firings). There is video linked elsewhere in this thread of Biden himself telling the story to an audience.

Exactly, it’s like we didn’t need the Mueller investigation to prove that Donald Trump colluded with Russia - he called on them to find dirt on his opponents publicly.

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I said look stupid, even out of context. Like advising Ukraine, from a very safe place in an other country, to just roll over. Even if Ukrainians want to fight back. Sure, it is just an opinion, but one that makes you look stupid and out of touch. And this has nothing to do with world views, just with trying apply expertise in one field into another, unrelated one. More often than not based on publicity and fame than…

Well you are in a very safe place and advising Ukrainians to put their lives at risk instead of negotiating a settlement in accordance with what Zelensky proposed in March and the United states disagreed with. You look even more stupid. And Chomsky absolutely did not ask Ukraine to "roll over". So you are also just making shit up. This topic has already been beaten to death here. https://www.counterpunch.org/wp-conte…

I'm not asking Ukrainians anything, I do respect their decisions so. If they decide to continue with the Selensky government's course of resisting, cool, give them all the support NATO can offer short of going to war with Russia. If want to negotiate for peace, with or without a Selensky government, cool, help during negotiations as much as possible.

Resisting invaders is something I support my whole life, including the Taliban and Kurds. Or the whole of north africa. I also support, properly done, interventions against oppressive regimes.

Re: Zuckerberg says FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship

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What do you mean "preventing a certain kind of speech"? This is your own personaly crafted definition, not the consensus definition of censorship.

No, it's the normal definition.

So what is the "certain" kind of speech? And what kinda of speech can you block where it's not censorship?
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