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Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Do H1Bs really earn above average wage? Haven’t seen that. Overall, H1Bs increase the labor supply, which decreases the price of labor.

In tech? Absolutely.

They earn above the tech average wage, or they earn above average wage in the country? If they work in tech, but earn below the average tech wage, then they’d actually be bringing the average wage down when you consider the opportunity cost.

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> their healthcare system is cheap but kills millions every year due to medical negligence. This is a problem money can solve though. If you have the money, you can get pretty good medical care in India. "cheap but kills millions" isn't really a problem faced by most people who have the money to afford it. > The US healthcare system - for all its flaws - has some of the best outcomes provided you have enough money to…

90%+ of Americans have health insurance of one form or another

Having health insurance and getting any real benefit from it are two different things.

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Healthcare in India also has one very negative aspect which is that more than half of the doctors have qualified due to some form of caste based affirmative action. More than 50% seats in Indian Medical colleges are reserved for "lower castes." It's much easier for a less hard working/bright student to get into the college if he belongs to the lower caste which reduces the quality of doctors so much that a lot of peo…

How is this any different from saying you would avoid a black/Hispanic/minority doctor in the United States? The US also has affirmative action for medical schools. If anything this problem would be worse in the US, since it's harder to determine race by name here. Your comment reads as thinly veiled casteism/racism.

I wouldn't even call it veiled.

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In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

>> Kids just stay at home grinding LC all day Those kids should start their own unicorns instead of grinding LC all day. That would be a much better use of their intelligence.

After spending years grinding LeetCode...

1) they will join Meta and be a cannon fodder developer for a PHP coder that never excelled at those puzzles, Mark Zuckerberg.

2) a Github Copilot user will wipe the floor with them. Being good at LeetCode puzzles will be as practical as being able to mentally calculate square roots. Just a party trick for low rating TV shows.

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It’s because legal immigrants are overwhelmingly well educated so they vote like the average well educated American does. It also doesn’t help that the current GOP is more or less openly racist so a vote for them goes against basic self preservation.

Saying "Republicans are just uneducated racists, so immigrants don't like them" may be convenient, but it's an oversimplification at best. It doesn't explain voter dynamics in Florida, for instance.

That’s not what I said at all if you read my comment. I said immigrants, who are educated, vote like the rest of the educated do.

I also said because the GOP has racist policies, it’s actively hostile to immigrants.

Your oversimplification is a straw man.

Re: H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

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Over 99.99% of rejected H1B applicants do not build unicorns back home. What is the point here? Let them all in in case one of them makes a unicorn? This is rock people thinking on the level of "every aborted baby could have become the next Mozart".

Maybe shut down the southern border and instead admit more H1Bs? And use some judgment instead of a lottery. Someone who's been a manager at Microsoft is obviously a better bet than a TCS bodyshopper.

Unless you come up with a new innovation like self-installing drywalls and roofs, self-picking fruits, or self-slaughtering chickens, shutting down the southern border seems like a really counterproductive idea.

Perhaps in a world where people did not need to live under a roof, and did not need to consume fruit or chickens, that idea would be great.

Most of the money people in unskilled occupations make goes into purchasing essential stuff like food, which pays sales tax and provides income for corporations.

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Roughly 14% of the naturalized citizens were in the employment category. https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship-resource-center/naturaliza...

So 119,700? That's a lot. Does that count naturalized citizens that came for employment but brought their family?

No, relatively speaking, it's not a lot. Yeah, it's a big number in a vacuum, but comparatively it's dwarfed by other countries we should want to compete with.

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It’s tough because many of our societal problems are only exacerbated by population growth, especially in the areas where these types of workers tend to congregate. Highly skilled workers don’t go to the Midwest or the deep south. They go and drive up rental prices in New York and San Francisco, where the jobs are. Well the first order effects of having a more skilled in competitive work for us are good, the second o…

I work with a bunch of highly skilled immigrants. They live in Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, and a bunch of other places. Now that remote work is prevalent, people are moving to all sorts of places.

There's also a lot of great wine and delicious pizza in TX, KY, and CO, but I bet if I throw a dart in the dark 9 times out of 10 I'm going to land on a name from CA or NY.

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I work with a bunch of highly skilled immigrants. They live in Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, and a bunch of other places. Now that remote work is prevalent, people are moving to all sorts of places.

There's also a lot of great wine and delicious pizza in TX, KY, and CO, but I bet if I throw a dart in the dark 9 times out of 10 I'm going to land on a name from CA or NY.

The data is publicly available:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/29/h-1b-visa-a...

But if you don't want to click, you'll find the highest share of H1B per capita in Texas, namely College Station.

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Its an extremely isolated data point. He was born rich. Had the money and privilege to do coaching to go to an elite Indian engineering college. Went to US from there. When he came back his buddies from college where VCs. They funded him. His startup collapsed terribly even after so much of luck, privilege and funding. So now he gives outdated gyaan(wisdom) in Twitter.

This is true everywhere tbh. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos all came from families that were upper-middle class or rich. It's not a bad thing imo since families should strive to improve their situation with every generation, but it's important to highlight that rags-to-riches stories are extremely rare. There are probably many who also got their visa rejected and were stuck with huge loans for their studies…

True about the people you mentioned but there were several others in that same group (upper middle class) who wasted their opportunities and didn't get anywhere. These people you mentioned are an exception and there are lessons to take away from that.
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