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Post by bergenty »

honkdaddy wrote: post #289
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

(I'll preface this by noting that I'm Canadian and will never vote in an American election) One of the reasons that immigration and green cards has always been such a hot-button political issue in the US is that first and second generation immigrants tend to overwhelmingly vote Democrat. You end up with this awkward feedback loop where D's are objectively politically motivated to increase immigration, while for R's i…

It’s because legal immigrants are overwhelmingly well educated so they vote like the average well educated American does. It also doesn’t help that the current GOP is more or less openly racist so a vote for them goes against basic self preservation.

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Post by hello_moto »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #250
hello_moto wrote: post #157

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> 500+ LC. Kids just stay at home grinding LC all day. There are dedicated youtube channels in Hindi & other regional lang telling you how to dynamic program, backtrack, div & conquer, two pointer....its a whole different scene. That's because it is a deeply rooted culture/attitude of the people in India (or other developing countries): intellectual one-upmanship (i.e.: my "brain" is bigger than yours). Nobody wants…

> That's because it is a deeply rooted culture/attitude of the people in India (or other developing countries): intellectual one-upmanship (i.e.: my "brain" is bigger than yours). > Nobody wants to be perceived to acquire something (a job, a house, anything) easily; people want to have a sense of the greatest achievement after a tough grind. We have intellectual oneupmanship and hustle & grind culture in the United S…

I'd say it's different.

Developing nation one upmanship is more like this:

"Oh, so you can get into Google Silicon Valley with just 300 LC? You can't do that here in India; you need at least 500+ to join ".

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Post by Ao7bei3s »

digianarchist wrote: post #285
SloopJon wrote: post #276

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> There is no path to a green card or citizenship for anyone who immigrated in the last ~15 years I'm no expert, but I don't think this is quite right. For an applicant with a bachelor's degree, the cutoff date is February 2012 for India, and April 2018 for China: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v... With an advanced degree, it's December 2014 for India and April 2019 for China. Please corr…

You're assuming linear progression. The priority date moves forward very slowly. An Indian born person applying for a Green Card today will likely be retired or dead before their priority date becomes current.

Additionally, the chargeability dates can and do move backwards too (search for "eb2/eb3 retrogression"). Make it make sense.

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Post by mbg721 »

bergenty wrote: post #311
honkdaddy wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'll preface this by noting that I'm Canadian and will never vote in an American election) One of the reasons that immigration and green cards has always been such a hot-button political issue in the US is that first and second generation immigrants tend to overwhelmingly vote Democrat. You end up with this awkward feedback loop where D's are objectively politically motivated to increase immigration, while for R's i…

It’s because legal immigrants are overwhelmingly well educated so they vote like the average well educated American does. It also doesn’t help that the current GOP is more or less openly racist so a vote for them goes against basic self preservation.

Saying "Republicans are just uneducated racists, so immigrants don't like them" may be convenient, but it's an oversimplification at best. It doesn't explain voter dynamics in Florida, for instance.

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Post by acchow »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #229
dataexporter wrote: post #216

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I am not sure if you are responding with actual information or just anecdata. There are hundreds of thousands of students who actually want to work in the US but are unable to (and are sent back) because of H1B Visa lotteries and archaic green card processes.

I'm not saying the US immigration system is perfect but there were apparently 855,000 new naturalized citizens in 2021. Somebody is figuring it out. Also- the US doesn't owe everybody a citizenship.

Right, but this number is very low compared to Canada's 250k, considering the USA has 10x the population of Canada

167k for Australia (US has almost 13x the population of Australia)

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Post by random314 »

frontman1988 wrote: post #132
amf12 wrote: post #110

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> their healthcare system is cheap but kills millions every year due to medical negligence. This is a problem money can solve though. If you have the money, you can get pretty good medical care in India. "cheap but kills millions" isn't really a problem faced by most people who have the money to afford it. > The US healthcare system - for all its flaws - has some of the best outcomes provided you have enough money to…

Healthcare in India also has one very negative aspect which is that more than half of the doctors have qualified due to some form of caste based affirmative action. More than 50% seats in Indian Medical colleges are reserved for "lower castes." It's much easier for a less hard working/bright student to get into the college if he belongs to the lower caste which reduces the quality of doctors so much that a lot of peo…

And the racist shows up.

The qualifying exams for MBBS degree is the same for everyone. A huge percentage of medical seats are literally purchased by wealthy parents for their kids. Yet the concern is always about low caste physicians, not nepotistic physicians.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

amf12 wrote: post #292
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #274

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How much of a majority?

Roughly 14% of the naturalized citizens were in the employment category. https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship-resource-center/naturaliza...

So 119,700? That's a lot. Does that count naturalized citizens that came for employment but brought their family?

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Post by random314 »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #310
cyanydeez wrote: post #262

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Aside from the same far right nationalists making headway in authoritarian, it probably would be great

I haven't tracked Indian politics, but they are comparing India with the US here. After Trump, you think India could be doing worse? That's saying something.

They are literally building concentration camps for Citizens.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/1/2/how-is-it-human-indi...

https://www.telegraphindia.com/north-east/another-goalpara-c...

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Post by random314 »

ss2003 wrote: post #298
weatherlite wrote: post #278

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> If Russia did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine If the U.S did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Iraq.

Attacking Iraq was a very, very bad idea. Attacking Ukraine is suicidal.

Suicidal for whom?

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Post by geebee »

bombcar wrote: post #265
ivalm wrote: post #255

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It’s actually surprisingly close in absolute numbers. About 20k not-self inflicted gun deaths in the us, and 17k deaths by fire in India. Ofc per capita gun deaths>>fires.

The non-self inflicted is huge though, most gun deaths are suicides.

Correct - though the US doesn’t have a dramatically higher suicide rate compared to countries with vastly lower gun related homicide rates. So excluding non self inflicted rates may provide the more relevant metric for this analysis.
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