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Post by stainforth »

jitix wrote: post #113
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

I worked in the US and felt that H1B status was very insecure so I tried to start my own company in India in 2020, and also explored the job and housing market. I agree 100% with all the great financial and work-related competitive points you've highlighted but I believe it misses the human and quality of life factors. Things that really affected my mental health in India during that time: 1. Food: Lack of variety in…

Sounds like those points are all ripe opportunities for startups of their own no? Just a matter of identifying market gaps, I'm sure that's why US companies have hired so many Indians, just simple filling of needs and not some other mechanic as to way the world works.

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Post by jeromegv »

wowokay wrote: post #124
weatherlite wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S has stability? Mmm not really.

It has been stable since I have been here? In fact all the issues that make the most $$$, gun violence, abortion, race relations, these are not a problem at the macro level. If anything it should be commended that our media and leadership has the luxury to complain about these “issues” that affect less then 5% of the population.

Surely a man would say that abortion is not a problem at the macro level and only impact 5% of the population.

Doesn't impact you so of course you don't care, but it does impact a lot more than 5%. Same for race relations, lots of people having to spend their life being put all kind of barriers in front of them.

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Post by Judgmentality »

frontman1988 wrote: post #132
amf12 wrote: post #110

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> their healthcare system is cheap but kills millions every year due to medical negligence. This is a problem money can solve though. If you have the money, you can get pretty good medical care in India. "cheap but kills millions" isn't really a problem faced by most people who have the money to afford it. > The US healthcare system - for all its flaws - has some of the best outcomes provided you have enough money to…

Healthcare in India also has one very negative aspect which is that more than half of the doctors have qualified due to some form of caste based affirmative action. More than 50% seats in Indian Medical colleges are reserved for "lower castes." It's much easier for a less hard working/bright student to get into the college if he belongs to the lower caste which reduces the quality of doctors so much that a lot of peo…

How is this any different from saying you would avoid a black/Hispanic/minority doctor in the United States? The US also has affirmative action for medical schools. If anything this problem would be worse in the US, since it's harder to determine race by name here.

Your comment reads as thinly veiled casteism/racism.

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Post by bluGill »

weatherlite wrote: post #139
sremani wrote: post #119

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I cannot argue here. What would go wrong, if Russian Oil and Gas are foundational to your Energy Security. Let me call Angela Merkel.

It's very unlikely Russia will do anything to mess up what they have going with China and India...because they don't have much other alternatives. I am not talking morals here ... I am calling it as it is. This has nothing to do with morals.

If Russia did reasonable things they wouldn't have attacked Ukraine. Since we are talking about a Russia willing to do stupid things there is no reason to believe they won't mess with India or China.

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Post by ivalm »

pm90 wrote: post #101
brianwawok wrote: post #95

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> I have to disagree with both. Guns are a constant threat, even in the bluest of cities since there are Red States just a few hours of drive away (if you're not already a Blue City in a Red State which is extremely common). The threat of school shooting is very real. Kids have to go through bs "active shooter drills"... this is not the sign of a healthy society. Sorry you are buying far too much into the news. I sus…

If you’re gonna wildly speculate then by all means go ahead and make up the most wildest shit imaginable.

It’s actually surprisingly close in absolute numbers. About 20k not-self inflicted gun deaths in the us, and 17k deaths by fire in India. Ofc per capita gun deaths>>fires.

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Post by 8ytecoder »

isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #249
pastor_bob wrote: post #223

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> Interviews over there are insanely competitive. Why is it then that it's common understanding that Indian teams are usually bad? Why are they so difficult to deal with and why do they produce bad code?

Body/team leasing is nearly always shit quality, doesn't matter if it's from India or not. You can try to pay folk in India much less than you can get away with in e.g. Europe though.

I've had some good experience hiring contractors. It all depends on what the goal is. If the goal is high quality work there are shops for that and if the goal is for a big enterprise to manage costs and de-risk themselves by hiring contractors as easy-to-let-go resources, you get exactly that. I've dealt with both and the latter is just extremely frustrating made infinitely worse by dealing with the timezone.

If you've seen job placements in top tier colleges in India, it's obvious that none of the body shops ever get even a small percentage of graduates wanting to join. They're always the last choice even for the less academically inclined. It has been the case since at least 2005. Until then these companies still had some sway and were hiring some good candidates. Now they're coasting on their "account winning" architects who then transfer all day-to-day stuff to some of the most tough to deal with engineers.

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Post by bluGill »

thehappypm wrote: post #159
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

It’s tough because many of our societal problems are only exacerbated by population growth, especially in the areas where these types of workers tend to congregate. Highly skilled workers don’t go to the Midwest or the deep south. They go and drive up rental prices in New York and San Francisco, where the jobs are. Well the first order effects of having a more skilled in competitive work for us are good, the second o…

There are enough immigrants in Des Moines to have a Hindi temple. Immigrants go everywhere, nnot just your little corner

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Post by digianarchist »

sngz wrote: post #178
yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

as another American from an immigrant family. I think getting an H1-B should be easier, not tied to a company, and require companies to pay them more than a citizen. This prevents a lot of the abuse I see right now to people on H1-B's, staying with jobs that they hate, and prevents wage suppression in the industry for others.

Why would a H1-B stay in a job they hate? The visa is actually portable unlike TN, E3 or L1.

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Post by [deleted] »

yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

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Post by spangry »

dixie_land wrote: post #34
paxys wrote: post #27

US immigration policies for Indian and Chinese nationals has been a blessing for their home grown tech ecosystem. There is no path to a green card or citizenship for anyone who immigrated in the last ~15 years, and the top 5% talent that used to come over by default is now working at or founding companies at home instead. This is directly correlated to the number of tech unicorns in these countries growing exponentia…

Thanks to "consulting" companies' abuse of H1B. We should've just have a stack ranking of H1B candidates, based on income (and severe penalties for regression in comp, so you can't just do it for the visa). This would immediately break companies like Infosys that simply spams the lottery system with bogus applications.

Why doesn't the government auction H1B visas? If H1B numbers are capped then they are a scarce resource that should be price-rationed so they are allocated to their most productive use (i.e. to companies that are willing to pay the most). It would also mean more of the gain from bringing over H1B workers would accrue to the public instead of private companies, which would increase public support for immigration.
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