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Post by delusional »

dahfizz wrote: post #63
geodel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, just a couple of centuries back maybe 90% of world population was self employed. It was not the greatest risk but simply a way of life.

Being a subsistence farmer was incredibly risky. One bad year and your whole family starves to death. People only did that because there was no alternative. As soon as the industrial revolution came, people left their "self employment" en masse to work at a company.

Not even "work at a company". Most of the dairy farmers here where I'm from are part of a collective called Arla where the independent dairy farmers collaborate, effectively building their own safety net with an organization that could support them if they had a bad year.

Companies are not required, but social safety nets are hugely important for modern systems of production.

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Post by FredPret »

ALittleLight wrote: post #226
FredPret wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do Canada, and I, owe my home country? Arguing I should stay there because I was born there is not even just nativism, it implies countries own their citizens as property. This idea would set the whole world back. If they wanted me to stay, they could have tried harder to create a nice environment for smart people there.

This is simply an improved version of colonization - rich countries extracting resources from the poor. Only now, the rich countries don't have to bother with the maintenance of the poor countries - they just drain the valuable citizens and leave the rest. As to what you, or Canada, owe your home country - this is a nonsense question. Either there are moral obligations between people or there aren't. If there are, th…

Where are the lines of obligation drawn? Do I owe allegiance to my home country, which is a political entity with arbitrary borders? If so, why? Or do I owe my efforts and talents to the poorest people? Again, why? Or to all humanity? To my family, to like-minded individuals?

If you think it’s wrong for me to have emigrated for a better life, well, off you go then, you go save the people of Africa.

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Post by the_svd_doctor »

yardie wrote: post #9

Note this was in 2007, during the height of the H1B body shop scams. The USCIS visa system was overwhelmed by companies like Infosys and Tata just submitting 1000s of applications for clearly underqualified, yet cheap candidates for jobs that didn't exist. This writer probably got their visa rejected over a less qualified candidate because of the quota limits for H1b.

It's much much harder today than it ever was in the past, see https://redbus2us.com/h1b-visa-cap-reach-dates-history-graph...

FY 2008/2009 were indeed a bit of outliers at the time, but since 2014/2015 it's getting worst and worst. FY 2023 had 483,000 applications for ~85k total slots.

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Post by quickthrower2 »

redox99 wrote: post #181
anukin wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its an extremely isolated data point. He was born rich. Had the money and privilege to do coaching to go to an elite Indian engineering college. Went to US from there. When he came back his buddies from college where VCs. They funded him. His startup collapsed terribly even after so much of luck, privilege and funding. So now he gives outdated gyaan(wisdom) in Twitter.

Doesn't that make his point stronger? If you are well connected, rich, and went to an elite college, it would make even more sense for the US to give you the visa.

If you are that rich maybe go there on an investment type of visa. Buy a farm, then do tech.

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Post by bluGill »

pastor_bob wrote: post #223
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

> Interviews over there are insanely competitive. Why is it then that it's common understanding that Indian teams are usually bad? Why are they so difficult to deal with and why do they produce bad code?

There a over a billion people in India, and tech is where the young have been going for a while. In any large population you willhave good and bad people. In the US the bad move to something else, but in India there isn't a something else better than working for a place that will hire you cheap to produce bad code.

There are a lot of bad engineers in India, but if you can weed through them and are willing to pay there are a lot of great ones too.

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Post by LZ_Khan »

dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

Is that why my LeetCode ranking is always so depressingly abysmal? My solutions are always bottom 25% of speed and space usage, and the pass rate for some of their questions are way higher than my average.

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Post by quickthrower2 »

datpuz wrote: post #38
aleem wrote: post #14

Three worst addictions: Heroine, Carbohydrates and a monthly salary - Nassim Taleb It's more common for people who are in-between jobs to take things that would be otherwise compromise their monthly salary income. It's less common for someone to quit a high paying job and take on a risky endeavour. Relatedly, the Tarzan strategy is another way to mitigate this risk (side projects or finding your next gig before just…

I would think alcohol would be worse than carbohydrates

I take Heroin here to really mean all narcotics including alcohol. I think crystal meth would be worse than heroin anyway, but have no direct or indirect experience.

Low carb diet is and giving up alcohol completely: I recommend people try.

Taleb forgot workaholism.

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

pastor_bob wrote: post #223
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

> Interviews over there are insanely competitive. Why is it then that it's common understanding that Indian teams are usually bad? Why are they so difficult to deal with and why do they produce bad code?

Body/team leasing is nearly always shit quality, doesn't matter if it's from India or not. You can try to pay folk in India much less than you can get away with in e.g. Europe though.

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Post by Dracophoenix »

hello_moto wrote: post #157
dxbydt wrote: post #26

In the early 1990s when I came here, the prevailing wisdom was that its categorically better to immigrate to the US from India if you get a chance. India was too far back in the tech space, too much bureaucracy, corruption, red-tape etc etc... In the 2020s, the consensus is quite mixed. A lot of people I personally worked with, who successfully got their visas and green cards, have given it all up and gone straight b…

> 500+ LC. Kids just stay at home grinding LC all day. There are dedicated youtube channels in Hindi & other regional lang telling you how to dynamic program, backtrack, div & conquer, two pointer....its a whole different scene. That's because it is a deeply rooted culture/attitude of the people in India (or other developing countries): intellectual one-upmanship (i.e.: my "brain" is bigger than yours). Nobody wants…

> That's because it is a deeply rooted culture/attitude of the people in India (or other developing countries): intellectual one-upmanship (i.e.: my "brain" is bigger than yours).

> Nobody wants to be perceived to acquire something (a job, a house, anything) easily; people want to have a sense of the greatest achievement after a tough grind.

We have intellectual oneupmanship and hustle & grind culture in the United States as well too. And contrary to popular, it's not new, as Tocqueville and Weber had made note of it during their days.

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