H1B rejected – builds unicorn back home

Post by redox99 » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 8:33 PM UTC

anukin wrote: post #140

noufalibrahim wrote: post #78

This is definitely an inspiring story but isn't it an isolated data point? On average, the US has a lot of things going for it for a young software professional if he or she can navigate the immigration maze and is reasonably lucky. Might not be for everyone but for the average person, getting a cushy job in a large company might be better for stability and long term satisfaction that risking it on an attempt to crea…

Its an extremely isolated data point. He was born rich. Had the money and privilege to do coaching to go to an elite Indian engineering college. Went to US from there. When he came back his buddies from college where VCs. They funded him. His startup collapsed terribly even after so much of luck, privilege and funding. So now he gives outdated gyaan(wisdom) in Twitter.

Post by ipaddr » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 8:36 PM UTC

yuppiepuppie wrote: post #173

solveit wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mental model many people seem to have is "foreigners will pay us exorbitant amounts of tuition for a prestigious diploma, and education isn't actually valuable so we might as well send them back home". And it's only mildly surprising people think this way. The median American does seem to go through an educational system that takes all their money and gives them a diploma without actually providing valuable exper…

What’s funny is that my (foreign) wife got her masters at a state school in the US with a US scholarship and was sent back after she graduated.

Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 8:38 PM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #144

yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

What always boggled my mind is we allow students to come study in the University system, but then when they graduate send them away. I suspect a platform of "We will train foreigners to enrich their homelands" wouldn't get much popular support, but it's the de-facto rule we live under.

Post by sokoloff » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

solveit wrote: post #155

aidenn0 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What always boggled my mind is we allow students to come study in the University system, but then when they graduate send them away. I suspect a platform of "We will train foreigners to enrich their homelands" wouldn't get much popular support, but it's the de-facto rule we live under.

The mental model many people seem to have is "foreigners will pay us exorbitant amounts of tuition for a prestigious diploma, and education isn't actually valuable so we might as well send them back home". And it's only mildly surprising people think this way. The median American does seem to go through an educational system that takes all their money and gives them a diploma without actually providing valuable exper…

Post by nxmnxm99 » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 8:43 PM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #162

yosito wrote: post #111

As an American from an immigrant family, I think the US is really losing here. We should be giving visas out liberally to any skilled professional who wants one. Immigration is the only thing that ever truly made the US stand out. On the other hand, as a global citizen with multiple passports who hasn't lived in the US for some time, maybe this is a good thing for the rest of the world. Spreading innovation out a bit…

Alternate viewpoint, we have more than enough students graduating in Computer Science and other STEM fields, many of whom have a hard time finding a job because most companies don't want to invest in training anyone up anymore, and they're enabled by the H1B program. If we incentivized/forced companies to build people up from basic college graduate again, it would be even better than finding skilled immigrants.