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The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #178

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this is a bit silly

Maybe, maybe not. The mental effects of products optimized for delivering advertising don't seem to be great for people or society (see: Meta's products, Twitter, TikTok).

Cigarettes cause cancer. Some people (not me) actually get value from ads and AFAIK they don't cause cancer.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #29

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Controversial .. Would you care to expand on that ? I don't know anyone who would prefer to see adverts compared to plugging in a NAS / DLNA ? These days there is nothing more than plug and play..

I ran a home server last year with jellyfin, nextcloud, torrent server, etc. I ended up spending more time and money on the server than watching and paying for the actual content. And then the thing was always broken in some way.

I see, I guess I have been lucky in that regard.. I have my NAS plugged in, libtorrent with autoirssi and just a plex server running for the actual streaming though.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Now. Just like when food companies sells the same package as before (or a slightly bigger version) as "now with 20% free product!" and after a few months, they remove the free product discount. Price increased, less people noticed it.

I’m sure people will notice if for instance HBO only sold a version with commercials after having an ad free product since 1980.

Sure. But Disney+ in 12 months will have the ad-based version at today's ad-free prices. (And the ad-free subscription at a premium price.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Downfall implies a failure or ending, it seems like they're still selling like hotcakes. This is why we need regulation to save us from surveillance, most consumers want cheap and don't understand/care that they're selling their privacy instead.

So what legislation? How many consumers even knowing that they are being tracked and advertised to are willing to pay the price so their hardware, software, and services come ad free? If the US follows what the GDPR did, we will just have pop ups before every TV show asking us will we allow tracking.

Your downvoters don't know that that's exactly what happens. I see cookie consent popups on the TV, every time. I have no idea where they are coming from.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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YouTube's advertising strategy is pushing me to get rid of my SmartTV, or at least find a 3rd Party solution to completely block the ads. I was completely fine with one or two 6 second ads randomly playing before a video, or during a lengthy video. Then they added 14 second ads, which was very annoying, but bearable since it's about the same length as the two short ads. But now they're advertising even if I simply op…

I have actively returned to using my computer to watch YT/Hulu because the overhead of seeing the ads is just too high on our TV.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #57

> Some may argue that there's no need to be dramatic and that there's nothing wrong in seeing an occasional ad every now and then. Oh, no, I am very dramatic about this. I will go to any lengths not to see advertising. I will entirely forgo any platform that shows me even one ad, especially when I pay them. Amazon Prime video is already pushing it with their preroll previews. The second it's something else I'm cancel…

Invasive advertising is a form of violence.

Words have meaning. I despise the insertion of ads in every form of media, but it is not violence. That's just silly.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking. It indiscriminately pollutes the environment, and inflicts harm on non participants by incentivising unbridled data collection.

The hard, spikey, jagged, foul tasting pill to swallow then: Society needs to pay directly for content.

Society doesn't pay enough for TV as is? No one even wants the hundreds of channels they stuff into the cable subscriptions.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #52

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https://archive.ph/Lhr81

archive.ph sends tracking to https://top-fwz1.mail.ru no thanks

My guess is that American companies won't provide analytics to a website like archive.ph

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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For now, this appears to be feasible. And it will probably stay feasible as long as the number of people who do it is relatively miniscule. But economics being economics, we’re freeloading off the customers who hook their smart TVs up to the internet and provide manufacturers with enough revenue that they don’t care about us. But should the practice become widespread and manufacturers notice a material impact on thei…

> they will start embedding SIM cards in TVs that can’t be disabled There’s no need to start jumping at shadows here.

Samsung and other manufacturers have already announced 5G-enabled Smart TVs. You’re right there’s no need to jump at shadows, but if this looks like a shadow, well…

https://www.techradar.com/news/samsungs-5g-8k-tv-promises-to...

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #47

The new Google TV launcher complete with ads on an expensive TV or a Shield is getting a hammering in the ratings, shows how little they care about customer feedback. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and... Bonus points for making the preview images in the store not show the ads you'll see. If any other app tried to mislead users like that they'd be banned from the store. Although it's not lik…

Google is just a vehicle to get their employees promoted. It's not a serious company with vision or strategy.
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