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The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Being very bad at any commercial initiatives, most probably I am way off, but I think there could be a market for some "enhanced" versions of those "universal" TV/LVDS boards to replace the internals of new TV's.

Something loosely along the lines of:

https://diy.viktak.com/2014/02/giving-new-life-to-lcd-screen...

I.e. in a perfect world you could be able to buy a (subsidized by ads) "smart TV" and (voiding the warranty) be able to replace the innards with a "dumb" card.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #78

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Just cancelled Disney+ with the one worded reason: commercials

Wow. Thanks for the head's up. I have Disney+ and have not yet seen this, but I'm done as soon as it does.

It’s not true. Disney+ is adding a lower cost ad free tier. The current plan doesn’t have ads.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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Just cancelled Disney+ with the one worded reason: commercials

Disney+ is going to have ads? ... just googled it: So they are _adding_ a new plan that's cheaper and ad-supported, and they are not touching the current plans. So nothing will change for my current subscription plan thankfully. > Disney+’s ad-free subscription tier, which currently costs $7.99 monthly and $79.99 annually, will remain available. and this: > What’s more, if the Disney+ profile being used is associated…

> Disney+’s ad-free subscription tier, which currently costs $7.99 monthly and $79.99 annually, will remain available

But it will not remain available at that price. Instead that's what the plan with ads will cost, and the prices of the current ad-free plan will be bumped up by 30%.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #87

FWIW, it is still possible to get TVs without this stuff, albeit at a premium. TVs are still made for business usage in areas like conference rooms, wall displays etc. They're often found under labeling like "commercial digital signage" or "business display" or the like, they seem to often try to avoid using "TV" (if being cynical maybe to make them harder for normal people to discover and confuse them if they do). B…

Or just get any smart tv and add a android tv dongle . They don't cost much

Android TV now also comes with forced ads (since rebranding to Google TV).

I was pretty upset when the very expensive Android TV gadget I bought (Nvidia Shield TV) specifically to have an external device without ads suddenly had them. They take up the upper third of the home screen.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

#125

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Where can I get a 65 inch computer monitor? I’ve done the homelab media server. I did my first one back in 2006 with a Mac Mini running Front Row. But this is 2022. If you want a set top box without tracking, just buy an AppleTV. It cost more because Apple makes money off of hardware and not advertising. Yes I know the reports about Apple getting even deeper into advertising. Yes it saddens me.

Digital Signage Displays are basically fancy monitors available as large as you want. But they'll cost you a pretty penny, being designed for 24/7 operation and without the ad-subsidy of smart TVs. Maybe hunt for a used one. Or conference room monitors, as suggested elsewhere in the thread.

Digital signage displays target a market that includes safety information in factories. if the TV there shows an ad instead of the safety content people may die.

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #47

The new Google TV launcher complete with ads on an expensive TV or a Shield is getting a hammering in the ratings, shows how little they care about customer feedback. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and... Bonus points for making the preview images in the store not show the ads you'll see. If any other app tried to mislead users like that they'd be banned from the store. Although it's not lik…

Don’t buy hardware from an ad company - problem solved. Why do you think Google got into the TV streaming business?

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

#127
YouTube's advertising strategy is pushing me to get rid of my SmartTV, or at least find a 3rd Party solution to completely block the ads. I was completely fine with one or two 6 second ads randomly playing before a video, or during a lengthy video. Then they added 14 second ads, which was very annoying, but bearable since it's about the same length as the two short ads.

But now they're advertising even if I simply open the app. Furthermore, they're "hiding" 14 second ads behind the shorter 6 seconds. I've even seen 41 minute advertising content. I'm guess they're banking on users leaving the app on "autoplay" to dupe advertisers into thinking that people actually consume this trash.

These days I just cancel every ad out of principle until the video plays. This takes on average 6-7 attempts. But now more often than not I just quit the app completely. So they are depriving their own content creators of views. And then they have the gall to present surveys asking what my advertising experience has been like...

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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I need a 4K TV since mine is only 2K but the only non smart TV I've found are at Walmart, the Sceptre brand. Does anyone know of any other?

https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays/me501

With commercial displays usually the problem is to find a dealer who is not doing B2B only

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234299003266

https://www.beachaudio.com/nec-multisync-me501-me501/

Re: The downfall of smart TVs: From promises of seamless viewing to ad tool

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post #86

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They already started showing ads to people with Twitch Prime a few years ago. It seems like its only a matter of time.

If you're paying for Twitch Prime, but still getting ads, then what are you paying for exactly? Less ads? Sadly I think it's what happens when companies are pushed to generate more and more profit each year. So you you start just a few ads to the paying users, because: "They won't mind one short ad" and then suddenly it's all ads all the time. It does make you wonder exactly how ads are so profitable and which produc…

Isn't Twitch Prime just the extras you get alongside a regular Prime subscription? I'm pretty sure Twitch Turbo is the no ads thing.
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