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Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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I don't use a single Apple product. What am I missing?

e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. but hey I’m jealous because you have so many pleasurable experiences to come. I suggest jumping in and buying the new iPhone 14. Go all in get the Pro Max. You’ll get a massive return on the investment. I’m a tech junkie, I’ve had it all. Doesn’t get better than Apple

You didn't really answer the question.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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It does indeed make you wonder considering the top composers are on Windows running Cubase/Nuendo, almost everybody in game dev is on Windows or Linux, and most of Hollywood's VFX teams are on Linux or Windows integrating with Da Vinci Resolve.

What about the professional C-suite executives who want to look sharp when meeting potential clients or inventors.

Most C-suite execs don't even seem to use a Mac in 2022. All seem to be about the iPad Pro, Surface Pro, or ThinkPad.

I also don't think a $2000 laptop is making anybody look "sharp" in 2022 when financing is readily available for anything Apple. What car you drive or what watch you have says more, but there's so many counterfeit watches out there that it's also fairly meaningless. Even cars, easily financed or leased these days.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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The erosion of the Mac experience began with Sublime Text. It’s a perfectly cromulent editor, but it was the inflection point where the Mac was becoming an important business target for efforts outside the ecosystem, and where developers who hadn’t been on Macs by choice were being issued them by their employers. It was the first widely adopted third party app on the platform that was both non-native and adopted enthusiastically. Formerly native apps embraced more cross-platform junk (Adobe famously moved a lot of its suite toward Flex, based on Flash). And then by the point Macs were becoming anything like commonplace, everything was a web app.

Not that I disagree Apple’s UI frameworks have degraded the experience. But the whole platform was a wasteland before they even had a chance to degrade anything.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Actually sounds pretty good, but how feasible is it for a phone sized device to be sufficiently high spec to run, e.g., fully featured development tools etc. I mean you need 32Gb RAM, 8 core processors and 512Gb SSDs these days just to run the basics (maybe less if using linux)...if you're doing modern game development or CAD stuff probably twice that. But... something you could dock your phone into as needed to allo…

I think if/when we get to the point where people with browser based workloads can just sit down at a desk and have the monitors and keyboard automatically connect to their phone, more hardware intensive software will quickly move to the cloud. You’ll be doing game development and CAD stuff with your phone acting as a thin client.

Yeah, I've tried doing cloud- based development. It's a no from me. I'd think that's further off being universally workable than the phone-docking idea. Though if you've already decided to get fully in bed with a particular cloud provider and totally tie yourself to their proprietary protocols etc. I can see the advantage.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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I have been hearing this for almost 2 decades now, as long as I’ve been following the ‘community’. Meanwhile, in my real life, my parents, wife, kids, and friends, are all happier than they ever ever been with their latest MacBooks and macOS. Things like iCloud photo syncing, universal control, and airdrop feel boring to us, but they make the computing experience feel pretty much like living in the future for them.

Your parents, kids et cetera aren't power users though. Macs used to be for professionals, but Apple started seriously chasing the consumer demographic with the original iMac.

Macs used to be for professionals, but Apple started seriously chasing the consumer demographic with the original iMac.

The original iMac was released in 1998. What's happening today has nothing to do with 1998 other than it was the iMac that is credited with saving Apple.

Professionals certainly do use Macs in all kinds of industries [1]:

[1]: "Here’s why Twitter, Uber, and more are giving fully loaded M1 Max MacBook Pros to engineers"--https://9to5mac.com/2021/11/08/heres-why-twitter-uber-and-mo....

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. but hey I’m jealous because you have so many pleasurable experiences to come. I suggest jumping in and buying the new iPhone 14. Go all in get the Pro Max. You’ll get a massive return on the investment. I’m a tech junkie, I’ve had it all. Doesn’t get better than Apple

You didn't really answer the question.

I did you just didn’t like the answer.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Your parents, kids et cetera aren't power users though. Macs used to be for professionals, but Apple started seriously chasing the consumer demographic with the original iMac.

> Macs used to be for professionals Makes you wonder who is then buying these expensive MacBook Pros, Mac Studios and Mac Pros. I guess it's those grandmas needing 28 cores for their recipes.

Every professional I know is on Mac

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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The key point in this Twitter rant is that the SWEs who understood the Mac (and NEXTSTEP, for that matter) have aged out. Most everyone has retired or moved onto other opportunities. There's very few of them left at Apple. And they're often overruled by younger managers. Apple is hiring tons of fresh new SWEs who have no understanding, nor desire to understand "The Mac Way". I'm not saying this is right or wrong, the…

Jobs was against dogma. It’s a changing world and the perspective and input of the young is valuable. What exactly are you moving on to? Ubuntu? Windows? Behind macOS is the most valuable company in the world adding fixes, features and security patches. There isn’t any other computing solution today that can deliver what Apple does.

I agree with everything you say. I cling to macOS while trying to migrate back to Linux. To Pop!_OS or some other suitable Linux, but for the past couple years it’s been Pop.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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> Macs used to be for professionals Makes you wonder who is then buying these expensive MacBook Pros, Mac Studios and Mac Pros. I guess it's those grandmas needing 28 cores for their recipes.

Every professional I know is on Mac

Within what industry/industries?

Has the same energy as "everybody I've ever met in my entire life both use SUSE Linux".

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Your parents, kids et cetera aren't power users though. Macs used to be for professionals, but Apple started seriously chasing the consumer demographic with the original iMac.

Macs used to be for professionals, but Apple started seriously chasing the consumer demographic with the original iMac. The original iMac was released in 1998. What's happening today has nothing to do with 1998 other than it was the iMac that is credited with saving Apple. Professionals certainly do use Macs in all kinds of industries [1]: [1]: "Here’s why Twitter, Uber, and more are giving fully loaded M1 Max MacBoo…

That it caught on with consumers at large is exactly why Apple became form over function for many years.
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