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Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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loopback_device wrote: post #17
exabrial wrote: post #13

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For FUCKS SAKE: Nuclear waste is a non issue. You dedicate once, EXACTLY ONE, swimming pool to store spent fuel for an entire country. The lie of nuclear waste has been repeated so many time by uneducated fossil fuel lovers we’ve missed hundreds of opportunities to provide clean sustainable power for generations. There are some logistic and construction problems that need optimization, but waste is the least of them.

Not sure how regarding nuclear fission as reasonably dangerous automatically makes you a "fossil fuel lover", but okay. It's not like there aren't any other options out there. They just haven't received much investment in the past decades (except for a few places, i.e. geothermal in Iceland). I'd like to be educated about that radioactive waste lie – I've not seen it work (meaning no-maintenance, safe, long-term or p…

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Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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exabrial wrote: post #71
loopback_device wrote: post #17

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Not sure how regarding nuclear fission as reasonably dangerous automatically makes you a "fossil fuel lover", but okay. It's not like there aren't any other options out there. They just haven't received much investment in the past decades (except for a few places, i.e. geothermal in Iceland). I'd like to be educated about that radioactive waste lie – I've not seen it work (meaning no-maintenance, safe, long-term or p…

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Sellafield is what caused mainland Europe to stop importing Irish butter in the nineteen-somethings, among other things. Not buying Irish butter is a thing I still remember. And Gorleben - I've been there recently. It's been a candidate for long term storage in Germany, and is still a processing/holding facility today. You can also get a tour of the mine that was supposed to be used as storage. Not sure if you're aware, but Germany doesn't have nuclear weapons, so it's all commercial nuclear fuel and waste processing. (EDIT: This is relevant to Sellafield, as waste from there is or was also processed in Gorleben if I recall correctly)

The phosphate mine waste incident - while not from a power plant - is still a radioactive waste issue. (EDIT 2: I mentioned this because it was the most recent incident in my memory)

Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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exabrial wrote: post #71
loopback_device wrote: post #17

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Not sure how regarding nuclear fission as reasonably dangerous automatically makes you a "fossil fuel lover", but okay. It's not like there aren't any other options out there. They just haven't received much investment in the past decades (except for a few places, i.e. geothermal in Iceland). I'd like to be educated about that radioactive waste lie – I've not seen it work (meaning no-maintenance, safe, long-term or p…

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If you need another example, read up on La Hague, where Germany also disposed of some of its waste.

Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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exabrial wrote: post #71
loopback_device wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how regarding nuclear fission as reasonably dangerous automatically makes you a "fossil fuel lover", but okay. It's not like there aren't any other options out there. They just haven't received much investment in the past decades (except for a few places, i.e. geothermal in Iceland). I'd like to be educated about that radioactive waste lie – I've not seen it work (meaning no-maintenance, safe, long-term or p…

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> One of them has to do with weapons grade material which isn’t even the subject we’re talking about

Btw, the Sellafield complex has a civilian nuclear power plant – the fact that there was a military facility there in the 50s does not make that disappear?

> and this pretty much proves my original point about how incredibly uneducated people are.

Ouch.

Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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Post by daniel-cussen »

cinntaile wrote: post #21
daniel-cussen wrote: post #15

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They think they would rather have rolling blackouts than go back to nuclear. Realistically it's the factory leaving town because the electricity economics went from awesome to terrible overnight, that cheap Kay-double-you-aich (kilowatt-hour) left the Old Country and might never come back. Keep in mind these Germans, German Germans in Germany, have been selected by migration to the Americas (and Tanganika, the Caroli…

> Dream sweet dreams of solar panels solving all your problems while you shiver and shake, suck up those blackouts while living on unemployment insurance, and maintain a positive attitude. When you go off on a rant, you should at least know that they do most of their heating using gas and not electricity. You should also realize that new nuclear can't help them with the troubles they have right now, it takes 15+ year…

You generally need a combo of gas and electricity.

Re: Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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Post by cinntaile »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #75
cinntaile wrote: post #21

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> Dream sweet dreams of solar panels solving all your problems while you shiver and shake, suck up those blackouts while living on unemployment insurance, and maintain a positive attitude. When you go off on a rant, you should at least know that they do most of their heating using gas and not electricity. You should also realize that new nuclear can't help them with the troubles they have right now, it takes 15+ year…

You generally need a combo of gas and electricity.

> they do most of their heating using gas and not electricity.

I implied this, by using "most". The number of heat pumps is rapidly increasing so in the future electricity will likely become more important but they aren't there yet.

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