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Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Agreed. Why is that though?

Because taking advantage of market failures is much easier to profit from than producing actual value, and neoliberal political ideologies prevent us from correcting for that with regulation.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Stock manipulation isn't really a "well paying job" though. The person making money isn't drawing a salary. The key insight that explains the situation is that we pay based on how easy it is to replace someone. If you are doing a critical job that everyone can do (like cooking) then it is unlikely to pay well. There has been little success by systems that pay people based on how important their job is.

I think that's an important part of it. I'd add another factor: the global economy and financial system is an impossibly complex construct that nobody understands in its totality and which as a result is very difficult to control and predict. Some companies and people manage to find parts of the system where they can essentially tap into a stream of money. Jobs in that area then tend to pay rather more than you would expect from their overall social value (and from the value to the global economy of that stream of money existing), because they're locally valuable in increasing the efficiency of the tapping-of-money process. Conversely, important work that happens not to be easily tied to tapping some stream of money is much less well paid and often under-resourced entirely.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Yeah, David Graeber has even written a whole book on the subject: Bullshit Jobs [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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If you don't journal your ideas and thoughts then I suggest you create a GitHub repository and begin journalling in markdown for minimal friction. Then do it everyday. You'll think of something interesting, or a problem that needs solving, or pain you see in the world around you. You have criteria for what you find interesting, you need to dig deep inside yourself to unearth what you're keeping bottled up inspiration…

tbh I have a great side project that people like and that I'm working on in my spare time, but it's a game engine and not really something that can be turned into a living

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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> How do you find interesting gigs? Get really good in a specific field you care about - for me that was platforms and programming languages but you might really enjoy other stuff. When I say really good let me emphasize that's not exceptional, I am in no means a great programming language designer or web platform person or developer in general. Once you get beyond a threshold - you'll find a lot of people who deeply…

That is interesting but what I find hard is getting a foot in the door when changing expertise field. In my case, I'm generally a mix of full stack dev and game dev (specialised in HTML5 game dev). I want to do more systems stuff (particularly Rust), and I've recently created a scripting language with a VM from scratch for a game engine as part of a side project. But I don't have any commercial experience or keywords…

I’m actually hiring for a role that seems to fit what you’re looking for at a small team. There’s a significant graphical component (so game dev sounds relevant), it’s primarily in Rust, and the front-end is Vue!

And I think it’s in an interesting space, but that’s also why I started this company :)

Role details here: https://allspice.notion.site/Backend-Engineer-Data-Structure...

Feel free to send me an email if you want: kyle@allspice dot io

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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Agreed. Why is that though?

Because people who value specifics about a career or have a passion do it more out of that passion because they know it doesn't come with high pay. Take teaching for example. Also people working for non profit or other socially beneficial companies probably know the company budget goes to help more people not to pad CEO pockets... The lowest rung of essential jobs are the easiest ones to get so those most desperate f…

No, that's not what slavery means. Stop redefining words because you want them to have more of an impact.

This behavior has become very trendy over the last decade or so and it's frankly quite literally genocide.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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> I've also found that interviews don't tell you much about reality. Always ask to see code and talk to engineers about what their days look like. I believe there are very few legitimate reasons they won't show you their code, but more likely if they're refusing, it's because they're hiding something. When talking to an engineer, ask them how their code goes from idea to production and have it explained in detail . T…

Does it really happened like that in the US ? It seems like a total different world. Here in France, if I ask for something during the interview process with the recruiter, I will get a response like this: "Sorry we don't do that in our process, so goodbye" and they move to the next candidate while I'm out for this job.

From central european here. The initial interview usually has been done by a HR person + someone from the department that is hiring. If that went well there was an on-site tour of the department in question, talking with engineers, looking at their projects including source code and workflows. The only time someone refused to show code was when it was owned by a customer.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory that's true, but in practice the people at the top deciding what's profitable aren't working for maximising public good, so it doesn't work anymore

Who are the people at the top? How do they “decide” revenue minus expenses? Are you claiming there is widespread fraud in SEC filings? If you are referring to many industries becoming controlled by a handful of large organizations, then people working in trading and finance have nothing to do with that. That is in the political arena.

I'm not talking about specific people, just in general. People making decisions in companies are looking for revenue, and what brings money isn't necessarily aligned with public good.

A lot of things that would be good for people/society have no good way of really being profitable (unless lawmakers do something to rebalance the game to somehow help them).

And a lot of things that are profitable are objectively bad for society.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Why is that though?

Because taking advantage of market failures is much easier to profit from than producing actual value, and neoliberal political ideologies prevent us from correcting for that with regulation.

Please, feel free to share one single example me of a job you can "produce value" without being out-competed by a machine and/or computer.

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> I've also found that interviews don't tell you much about reality. Always ask to see code and talk to engineers about what their days look like. I believe there are very few legitimate reasons they won't show you their code, but more likely if they're refusing, it's because they're hiding something. When talking to an engineer, ask them how their code goes from idea to production and have it explained in detail . T…

I don't recall hearing of (non-opensource) proprietary code being shown in an interview. Is that common in some circles? In a startup, I think I'd have to get an NDA from everyone, even if the code was mindless bulk glue code -- if only to avoid having to later mention that practice to investors who are checking our IP diligence. Would the following alternative work for you? In a great engineering environment, people…

This may happen more at large companies than at startups, but having interviewees sign NDAs is normal, isn’t it?
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