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Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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> I've also found that interviews don't tell you much about reality. Always ask to see code and talk to engineers about what their days look like. I believe there are very few legitimate reasons they won't show you their code, but more likely if they're refusing, it's because they're hiding something. When talking to an engineer, ask them how their code goes from idea to production and have it explained in detail . T…

> Always ask to see code and talk to engineers about what their days look like. I believe there are very few legitimate reasons they won't show you their code, but more likely if they're refusing, it's because they're hiding something. When talking to an engineer, ask them how their code goes from idea to production and have it explained in detail.

In an ideal world it makes sense to have a look at the code and understand how the company works from a holistic standpoint. However in reality I doubt that many companies would allow that to happen at interview stage…

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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post #6

Check career pages of companies that work on things that you find interesting

Seconded!

This approach has worked for me several times over the years.

It takes time and patience. The companies you target aren't always hiring the roles you want. I've been lucky a few times, with opportunities arising just as I've been laid off, but part of that is the groundwork. I keep looking at them even when happy and secure, and tweak my skills in the right directions.

This can also work for other factors, like nice offices or short commutes. I also keep my eye on the jobs board at a company with a landmark HQ nearby.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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I think there's one real thing that's important to decide first which is "What would make this interesting for you and what defines useful for you?" The most useful things in the world are often absurdly boring. Vanta is a great example of tremendously useful company that strikes me as being nearly paint dryingly boring. I'd focus on that first, and once you move from a generic mindset to some specific subset of things, I bet you'll find something.

For what it's worth, I really struggled so I ended up deciding to start something with some friends, and that has really succeeded for finding something interesting. There's no better way to have an interesting job than to make one doing something you find interesting, and hopefully useful.

(https://www.apolloagriculture.com/ which may or may not be interesting to you.)

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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First, you need to actually value interesting work in relation to other job values (like compensation, good working hours, low stress, making a difference, family friendliness, good management and many others). Generally these will be a tradeoff, but you might find one where the tradeoff suits you. For instance I had a job I really enjoyed at an Earth Observation startup geeking out about maps and space, but the comp was pretty mediocre and the management abysmal. But it was enough for my needs at the time and I'm reasonably good at managing up so it didn't bother me too much. Many of my former colleagues left that job dissatisfied, since the tradeoff wasn't to their liking.

Second, always be looking. You are right in observing that 99% of job ads seem totally boring. Partially this can be helped with some filters on job boards, I tend to just filter out "Finance" and "Advertising" since I know that I have basically zero interest in those domains. But the chance that you'll find a great interesting job where you skillset is even vaguely compatible at the time you need it is pretty low. It's better to keep looking well before you need to.

Third, if you meet someone in your field who's working at a place that seems interesting, ask if they're hiring. Even if not, there's a chance that next time they are, the person will remember you. Or perhaps in their next company...

Finally, cultivating a broader skillset rather than a highly specialised one can make this easier, since many interesting companies are probably not doing the exact same everyone else is, so they might need someone who seems more adaptable.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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post #20
post #8

The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Agreed. Why is that though?

The best paying jobs are generally the most scalable jobs, as you can derive income from/add value to more revenue streams with minimal time cost on your part.

That doesn't automatically correlate with parasitical roles, but there is an overlap.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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If you don't journal your ideas and thoughts then I suggest you create a GitHub repository and begin journalling in markdown for minimal friction.

Then do it everyday. You'll think of something interesting, or a problem that needs solving, or pain you see in the world around you.

You have criteria for what you find interesting, you need to dig deep inside yourself to unearth what you're keeping bottled up inspiration.

Then revisit your journal frequently, add to it, remix it and begin sideprojects.

See my profile for my journal, I have 450+ software idea and startup idea entries.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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post #20
post #8

The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Agreed. Why is that though?

"Feeling like your job is rewarding to you" is part of the compensation, and to a certain extent trades off against actual money.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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post #20
post #8

The weird irony of our society seems to be that the most useless jobs pay the most, while the most essential jobs pay the least. A lot of important work is being done by volunteers and charity organisations. The best paying jobs are often parasitic. Like stock manipulation.

Agreed. Why is that though?

Intersection of supply curve of people able and willing to do the work and demand curve of people able and willing to pay.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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> How do you find interesting gigs?

Get really good in a specific field you care about - for me that was platforms and programming languages but you might really enjoy other stuff.

When I say really good let me emphasize that's not exceptional, I am in no means a great programming language designer or web platform person or developer in general.

Once you get beyond a threshold - you'll find a lot of people who deeply care about the technology and the conversations become a lot more "here's this cool thing". That often unlocks connections and opens the door to work on platforms and interesting startups.

My work history before going to Microsoft was 3 technical startups - before that I worked on automagically generating and auto-healing E2E tests which was a bunch of algorithms and chromium internals on a technical product, before that I worked on a distributed p2p CDN over WebRTC which was also a bunch of algorithms and code, yada yada.

I believe my open source work unlocked these opportunities and not my fancy CS degree.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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Check out the Digital Services Coalition.

https://digitalservicescoalition.org/#/story

Like others have said, it depends a lot on what you find interesting, but these companies are doing good work trying to improve digital services for people who are in or interact with the government.

Sometimes the projects are greenfield and you can choose your stack; sometimes you'll be dealing with legacy code, skeptical stakeholders, and government bureaucracy. Culture tends to be supportive and inclusive, most of the companies work remote, pay is good--but not top of the market--and consulting isn't for everyone, but most days you feel like you're doing something worthwhile with your skills.

(I work for one of these companies)

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