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It wasn't for nothing

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Re: It wasn't for nothing

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I'd love to know how the authors financials work. It sounds like a dream to work on something just because it's fun and fulfilling. I have mouths to feed and that dominates much of my career choices. I'm in a small town in a small country so earning a FAANG salary is not an option. I can't save up and go work on a dream project.

Not having money is a reward in and of itself. Choices are much simpler.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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Read together, some comments seem to reveal the poles of a moral landscape in the hacker community: > Guix saved my life... finally feeling some stability in life; and a desire to explore other creative outlets such as blogging (hi!), cooking, growing sustainable foods; and healthy activities like climbing and skiing. None of this would be possible without Guix, > If Guix ever becomes mainstream, it will be in spite…

I do not at all resent the attitude. I resent that Guix is presented as a serious alternative to, say, Nix, within this community.

I will be the first person to appreciate the efforts of folks working on Open and Free Software, it's really noble. The world would be a better place if all our software was Free, but that's not the world we live in today.

I wish them all the luck and success in the world, but wanting adoption while also shunning (guilting?) your user base when confronted with practical feedback is not a healthy attitude.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#93

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

> There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months.

what? How about other hobbies than sport? Music, arts, language learning, crafts, cooking, photography, etc. All of these have active communities around them you can join and socialize in.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#94

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

Meh, not my experience at all. I'm from Norway, and have lived in many other countries.

EDIT: Sure, the winter part is somewhat true, at least if you're living up north. First snowfall comes mid/late October, and last early in May. "Real" summer is at most from mid June to mid/late August, around two months.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#95

Read together, some comments seem to reveal the poles of a moral landscape in the hacker community: > Guix saved my life... finally feeling some stability in life; and a desire to explore other creative outlets such as blogging (hi!), cooking, growing sustainable foods; and healthy activities like climbing and skiing. None of this would be possible without Guix, > If Guix ever becomes mainstream, it will be in spite…

I do not at all resent the attitude. I resent that Guix is presented as a serious alternative to, say, Nix, within this community. I will be the first person to appreciate the efforts of folks working on Open and Free Software, it's really noble. The world would be a better place if all our software was Free, but that's not the world we live in today. I wish them all the luck and success in the world, but wanting ado…

I picked out your comment and didn't mean that to reflect personally on you or assume your deeper intentions, sorry. Yours and few other comments seemed to really jar against what felt like a very sincere and open post by the OP. I'm sure you do appreciate the efforts while simply disagreeing with the ideology. Fair enough.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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I personally didn't use Guix or interacted with its community in any way. But if GP is right about their attitude, it saddens me. Can't there be a middle ground? Like, promoting free software and still helping people getting things done in the world we live right now?

No, they are not right about the attitude. We just don't do proprietary software and so discussing it on our channels is off topic and distracting. "Go fuck yourself" is much stronger, much ruder attitude. On the #guix IRC channel you'll often get a private message to direct you to other channels where it's fine to discuss proprietary software and how to make it work on Guix.

I'm not attempting to construe that the attitude is GFY. From the perspective of someone who is enjoying this tool and ecosystem and wants to do something, but the community is trying very hard to enforce beliefs that are incompatible, it sure tastes like I'm being told to go fuck myself.

Does it feel good to you when you ask a question and the reply you get is "this isn't for you"?

Requiring a private reply on an IRC server to unblock a comically common use case is exactly the problem I am trying to highlight.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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I have yet to see the winter last 9 months. Typically starts in November and ends in March. And nothing to do during the winter? Cozy up by the fireplace, pop a bottle of wine with a loved one. Read books. Make delicious food. Prepare for xmas, visit the various xmas markets, then there is new year which is a blast. And let's not forget the julebord-season during late November and first half of December! January and…

> Cozy up by the fireplace, pop a bottle of wine with a loved one. So your suggestion for his problem is... alcohol? :-) > Prepare for xmas, visit the various xmas markets. Where frequently the main activity is drinking mulled wine aka... alcohol? :-) > Spend the evening playing board games with friends, drinking and having it cozy by the fireplace again. More alcohol? :-)))

What I saw was the poster recommend things that can enjoyable during the winter. Alcohol can be enjoyable during the winter. What exactly is your issue?

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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Let's go! I'm currently living rent-free in an unoccupied student room in Edinburgh (it's out of term here, and I'm living with friends). I'm spending most of this month enjoying the Edinburgh Fringe Festival[0] (I saw 7 shows yesterday). The remainder of my time goes on Open Source/contracting work. Due to the Fringe, this month is unusual and I'm not satisfied with my open source activity: it's mostly code reviews,…

Do you have a link to your sponsorship/donation pages?

https://opencollective.com/ankidroid

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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> I can use Nix at work, at home, with family, with vendors, with binary blobs, on macOS. I'm using Guix for work, at home, my wife has Guix on her gaming laptop with nvidia card, playing games on steam. Nobody has any problems with enabling rpmfusion repo on Fedora, using aur on Arch, adding backports repo for kde or whatever on ubuntu. But as soon as it's nonguix channel it's suddenly a problem. Huh. It's literally…

If you're just turning to flatpak, why are you even using guix in the first place?

I assume for them, guix + a few proprietary bits is a better compromise than installing Windows

Re: It wasn't for nothing

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I like the blog post and I'm happy for the author, truly. But Guix doesn't sit well with me, and I rarely see this discussed: The Guix zealotry will be their undoing, and frankly this is where Nix shines. I can use Nix at work, at home, with family, with vendors, with binary blobs, on macOS. The community tries very hard to help. With Guix, sure, there's stuff like nonguix, but take a gander at this from the nonguix…

I think much like how there's Nix and NixOS, it's important to draw a line between Guix (the package manager) and GuixSD (the Linux distribution). Guix the package manager, while still not usable at work for me (lack of MacOS support - just 4 of my eng org's ~25 folks use Linux), is full of interesting ideas and features that work well in Linux settings, and can do useful things. It could make interesting dev shells,…

> not usable at work for me (lack of MacOS support - just 4 of my eng org's ~25 folks use Linux)

In case you're not aware, you can easily create a Guix pack[1] in the Docker image format that can be run on MacOS.

[1] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-pack....

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