Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

It wasn't for nothing

gexp.no

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 165 posts

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#81

Post by unixhero »

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months.

There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities

Same with Sweden and Finland.

As opposed to living in sunny country a south of the equator.

Living in Norway is a blessing and a curse.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#82

Post by quickthrower2 »

armchairhacker wrote: post #19
quickthrower2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t have mouths to feed then options are massive and life is cheap. For example remote work live in south america type of thing.

Is it really though? I imagine way more people would love to spend all their free time on their hobbies, and would sacrifice some of the luxuries of the modern world, but work crap jobs. And most of these people don't have kids. See: the amount of miserable people on Reddit and elsewhere.

I don't think it is a money thing, but flexibility. Working 4 days for 80% pay is seen as a privilege. It shouldn't be. And the part time friendly jobs (supermarket checkout, Uber, etc.) don't pay well per hour. One workaround is to contract, 6 months contract then 6 months off.

If you want to work your entire life on your hobby without worrying about how to source money at all ... well that requires being born rich most likely.

I think for most people the blocker is themselves and societal expectations. "People will think you are a bum" is more of a blocker than "How much money left in account". Especially for people reading this comment.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#83

Post by karamanolev »

unixhero wrote: post #81

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

Are you saying that as a nordic country resident or is that an external observation? If it's first hand experience, do you care to elaborate on the differences and why you think they exist?

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#84

Post by nonrandomstring »

Read together, some comments seem to reveal the poles of a moral landscape in the hacker community:

> Guix saved my life... finally feeling some stability in life; and a desire to explore other creative outlets such as blogging (hi!), cooking, growing sustainable foods; and healthy activities like climbing and skiing. None of this would be possible without Guix,

> If Guix ever becomes mainstream, it will be in spite of their efforts.

What's behind resentment of the sacrifices made by others on a journey to modest personal success and happiness? I think that many of us are deeply unhappy with our jobs. For moral reasons. The high salaries aren't enough. But there isn't the courage to take a plunge into something crazy, risky - the spiritual transformation so deeply craved for. If you have "mouths to feed", and think that is stopping you, try talking to your partner and dependents. You may be surprised that they love you, want you to be happy, and support your projects.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#85

Post by intothemild »

karamanolev wrote: post #83
unixhero wrote: post #81

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

Are you saying that as a nordic country resident or is that an external observation? If it's first hand experience, do you care to elaborate on the differences and why you think they exist?

I'm an Australian immigrant living in Norway for the last 12 years.

The post is partially true. The parts about social cohesion are the partially true bit.

Norwegians are not that great at meeting new people outside of their established groups.. that's it.

Everything else in the post is not true in the slightest.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#86

Post by arcade79 »

unixhero wrote: post #81

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

I have yet to see the winter last 9 months. Typically starts in November and ends in March.

And nothing to do during the winter? Cozy up by the fireplace, pop a bottle of wine with a loved one. Read books. Make delicious food. Prepare for xmas, visit the various xmas markets, then there is new year which is a blast. And let's not forget the julebord-season during late November and first half of December!

January and February are dreary. I'll admit that.

Then there is winter vacation. You don't need to be a sportsman to enjoy pulling on a pair of cross county skis, head out with friends and family and create a nice campfire somewhere to grill hot dogs over. Don't forget the oranges and kvikklunch! Rent an airbnb somewhere with good access to either downhill slopes or cross-county trips. Spend the evening playing board games with friends, drinking and having it cozy by the fireplace again.

Late march / early April is springtime, and everyone is hungry for the sun. Easter arrives at some point. Again an excellent opportunity to go to some cottage and enjoy some time off.

But yeah, January and February are dreary.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#87

Post by oblio »

arcade79 wrote: post #86
unixhero wrote: post #81

And let's all be honest here: There is nothing else to do in Norway unless you're a active sportsman during the 9 winter months. There are few parades Few social gatherings Little social cohesion No reason to seek up a public place to randomly meet people, because people shun random social contact There is only binge drinking and a social walking alone in the cities Same with Sweden and Finland. As opposed to living…

I have yet to see the winter last 9 months. Typically starts in November and ends in March. And nothing to do during the winter? Cozy up by the fireplace, pop a bottle of wine with a loved one. Read books. Make delicious food. Prepare for xmas, visit the various xmas markets, then there is new year which is a blast. And let's not forget the julebord-season during late November and first half of December! January and…

> Cozy up by the fireplace, pop a bottle of wine with a loved one.

So your suggestion for his problem is... alcohol? :-)

> Prepare for xmas, visit the various xmas markets.

Where frequently the main activity is drinking mulled wine aka... alcohol? :-)

> Spend the evening playing board games with friends, drinking and having it cozy by the fireplace again.

More alcohol? :-)))

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#88

Post by xyzzy_plugh »

caslon wrote: post #30
xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #25

I like the blog post and I'm happy for the author, truly. But Guix doesn't sit well with me, and I rarely see this discussed: The Guix zealotry will be their undoing, and frankly this is where Nix shines. I can use Nix at work, at home, with family, with vendors, with binary blobs, on macOS. The community tries very hard to help. With Guix, sure, there's stuff like nonguix, but take a gander at this from the nonguix…

Have you considered the idea that it might just not be for you? There are plenty of workflows that don't require proprietary software, and adding proprietary software breaks a lot of the point of Guix, along with throwing more work onto the backs of maintainers. You wouldn't expect a bunch of people giving away a vegetarian cookbook to respond super well to, "This is all fine and great and all, but how can I adapt th…

Who is it for then? Everyone on the planet I have ever interacted with uses proprietary software daily. What are these mythical workflows? Am I only supposed to use Guix when it's convenient for their philosophy?

nonguix is proof that adding proprietary software doesn't break diddly squat.

It's all just gatekeeping. They could still achieve all their goals without being zealous, whether you believe me or not.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#89

Post by marcus_holmes »

(Part of) my path out of depression was committing to something bigger than myself. Giving more than I received to a community. In the end, it not only helped me climb out of my black hole, it also rewarded me in ways I never expected.

Re: It wasn't for nothing

#90

Post by xyzzy_plugh »

3836293648 wrote: post #55
sierkov wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can use Nix at work, at home, with family, with vendors, with binary blobs, on macOS. I'm using Guix for work, at home, my wife has Guix on her gaming laptop with nvidia card, playing games on steam. Nobody has any problems with enabling rpmfusion repo on Fedora, using aur on Arch, adding backports repo for kde or whatever on ubuntu. But as soon as it's nonguix channel it's suddenly a problem. Huh. It's literally…

If you're just turning to flatpak, why are you even using guix in the first place?

This is precisely my confusion.
Post reply on HN