Earlier quoted context omitted.
> [...] the probability of catastrophic outcomes is exponential [...] What does that even mean? Do you want to say that the probability is high?
Also, exponential from the social adoption input alone. Popularization has reached meme status virality(exponential by default).
Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
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Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#132Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
You are making a sweeping statement by saying, "eating [all] the bugs" is dangerous and _contrary to our nature_. Also, you should be careful with the word "idiot".
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#133Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#134Larger animals can be inspected individually to find pathogens or diseases. Insects are so small that it's practically impossible to inspect each individual organism. You can do sampling of the batch, but the odds of missing bad ones are still high. Same with the fruits and vegetables, some are easy to inspect, others are almost impossible, or impossible to clean. There are kosher (insect-free) versions of lettuce an…
Perhaps the proteins in bugs don’t line up with humans though.
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#135Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
Tasty, tasty murder
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#136Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#137Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
Just decades ago people in the West had the same reaction to lobster, crab and other seafood. Modern society needs to go beyond animal instinct.
Yes, especially when it's a certain minority of "modern" society that determines those needs for the society as a whole. I can assure you billionaires won't be eating bugs.
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#138Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.
Also, everyone has heard at least one story of a young child eating an earthworm they found in the garden. It seems to be only after seeing the reaction of older children and adults that they learn to find that disgusting.
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
exponential has come into popular usage to mean “really high”, i.e. not exponential. I frequently see it used to refer to single values that aren’t even in a time series, or in comparison to one single previous value (“exponentially higher”) when that is, of course, a mathematical impossibility. It’s similar to how unconscious is now commonly used to mean subconscious (i.e. not unconscious) and literally is commonly…
> how unconscious is now commonly used Freud and Jung used the term unconscious (das Unbewusste) - it is probably not a recent trend.
Basically, just because the words are constructed the same, doesn't mean you can translate one direct part-by-part into the other.
For a similar example of the principle that logical structure doesn't translate naively one-for-one:
"Du darfst schlafen." "You may sleep."
"Du musst schlafen." "You must sleep."
"Du darfst nicht schlafen." "You must not sleep."
"Du musst nicht schlafen." "You may not sleep." [Though this last one is ambiguous in English.]
Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)
#140"Parasitic developmental forms were detected in 244 (81.33%) out of 300 (100%) examined insect farms. In 206 (68.67%) of the cases, the identified parasites were pathogenic for insects only; in 106 (35.33%) cases, parasites were potentially parasitic for animals; and in 91 (30.33%) cases, parasites were potentially pathogenic for humans. " Sounds horrific. How does this compare to other food sources?
We've been eating other foods for a very long time, and we've developed methods to handle, and prevent, the parasites. Cook meat, make sure fruits and vegetables are not blighted, ferment dairy, various preservation methods from pickling to canning to smoking. The list of methods is enormous. We haven't been eating insects except in times of famine. We have not yet developed methods of dealing with it.
Literally a "What do you mean 'we' Tonto?" statement.
Here in one of the oldest continuously settled by the original arrivals outside of Africa parts of the world (Australia), foods such as the Witchetty grub and the Honey ant are nutrituous high food value, much sought after delicacies and not some kind of "only in a famine" fallback.