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Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [...] the probability of catastrophic outcomes is exponential [...] What does that even mean? Do you want to say that the probability is high?

Also, exponential from the social adoption input alone. Popularization has reached meme status virality(exponential by default).

Probability is bound to be between 0 and 1. It's a bit hard to fit an exponential in there.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#132

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

Only the human species is able to surviva in all climate zones. Cultural evolution allows us to utilize everything around us, including certain insects.

You are making a sweeping statement by saying, "eating [all] the bugs" is dangerous and _contrary to our nature_. Also, you should be careful with the word "idiot".

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#133

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

Just decades ago people in the West had the same reaction to lobster, crab and other seafood. Modern society needs to go beyond animal instinct.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#134

Larger animals can be inspected individually to find pathogens or diseases. Insects are so small that it's practically impossible to inspect each individual organism. You can do sampling of the batch, but the odds of missing bad ones are still high. Same with the fruits and vegetables, some are easy to inspect, others are almost impossible, or impossible to clean. There are kosher (insect-free) versions of lettuce an…

Now my mind is wondering if insects could be a source and transmitter of prion diseases.

Perhaps the proteins in bugs don’t line up with humans though.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#135

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

Meat is murder

Tasty, tasty murder

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#136

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

You can get parasites from eating meat too, you know

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#137
post #133

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

Just decades ago people in the West had the same reaction to lobster, crab and other seafood. Modern society needs to go beyond animal instinct.

> Modern society needs to go beyond animal instinct.

Yes, especially when it's a certain minority of "modern" society that determines those needs for the society as a whole. I can assure you billionaires won't be eating bugs.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#138

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

I don't think disgust is "innate". A typical English person finds squid disgusting, but is happy to eat various kinds of cheese, including ones like Stilton with mould on them. Someone in Japan, on the other hand ...

Also, everyone has heard at least one story of a young child eating an earthworm they found in the garden. It seems to be only after seeing the reaction of older children and adults that they learn to find that disgusting.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

#139
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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

exponential has come into popular usage to mean “really high”, i.e. not exponential. I frequently see it used to refer to single values that aren’t even in a time series, or in comparison to one single previous value (“exponentially higher”) when that is, of course, a mathematical impossibility. It’s similar to how unconscious is now commonly used to mean subconscious (i.e. not unconscious) and literally is commonly…

> how unconscious is now commonly used Freud and Jung used the term unconscious (das Unbewusste) - it is probably not a recent trend.

They used the German terms. Are you arguing about early translations?

Basically, just because the words are constructed the same, doesn't mean you can translate one direct part-by-part into the other.

For a similar example of the principle that logical structure doesn't translate naively one-for-one:

"Du darfst schlafen." "You may sleep."

"Du musst schlafen." "You must sleep."

"Du darfst nicht schlafen." "You must not sleep."

"Du musst nicht schlafen." "You may not sleep." [Though this last one is ambiguous in English.]

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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"Parasitic developmental forms were detected in 244 (81.33%) out of 300 (100%) examined insect farms. In 206 (68.67%) of the cases, the identified parasites were pathogenic for insects only; in 106 (35.33%) cases, parasites were potentially parasitic for animals; and in 91 (30.33%) cases, parasites were potentially pathogenic for humans. " Sounds horrific. How does this compare to other food sources?

We've been eating other foods for a very long time, and we've developed methods to handle, and prevent, the parasites. Cook meat, make sure fruits and vegetables are not blighted, ferment dairy, various preservation methods from pickling to canning to smoking. The list of methods is enormous. We haven't been eating insects except in times of famine. We have not yet developed methods of dealing with it.

> We haven't been eating insects except in times of famine. We have not yet developed methods of dealing with it.

Literally a "What do you mean 'we' Tonto?" statement.

Here in one of the oldest continuously settled by the original arrivals outside of Africa parts of the world (Australia), foods such as the Witchetty grub and the Honey ant are nutrituous high food value, much sought after delicacies and not some kind of "only in a famine" fallback.

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