Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

Post by selimthegrim » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 1:36 AM UTC

akdor1154 wrote: post #223

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The interesting thing about the geopolitical context is that Vietnam is also single party Communist country now practicing state capitalism and also has all the trappings of communism such as internment of dissidents, same as China does But our willingness to never think about it comes from Vietnam’s irrelevance, not the system they practice

Culturally Vietnam is tending quite pro-west, and yes its govt is single party communist, but nowhere near the levels of authoritarian hell of the CCCP.

Post by freddie_mercury » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 1:38 AM UTC

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Outsourcing has dramatically increased inequality in the United States. Try again.

Why should we have to care about American workers over everyone else? On one side, you have a American factory worker loses the ability to buy steak. On the other, a Vietnamese worker gets access to running water, the consumer gets cheaper electronics and Apple shareholders get extra profits.

Post by chrischen » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 1:44 AM UTC

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I'm interested to know to what extent this is just assembly of parts imported from China, or whether the real control over things like the M1 chip assembly, secure element, logic board, etc. are also moved to Vietnam? Seems like that's the secret sauce / real proprietary stuff that tells you whether the high value is moving too. (or maybe that is not even in China either) And do they have the surrounding parts + engi…

Post by xupybd » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 1:46 AM UTC

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There is a lot of dishonesty around Westerners complaining about foreign cheap labor. They claim to be championing labor rights, but they are often just angered at companies for stopping all manufacturing in the West. They see it as an obvious weakness in their ideology that companies can just walk away from their labor movement and go elsewhere. The obvious truth, and what literally all of these Vietnamese workers w…

A few thoughts: -I knew someone who wanted to set up optical and circuit board manufacturing in Vietnam - the few factories they toured seemed to be set up very well. Also frequently with better female/male ratios in management levels (perhaps bc, at least what they were told, Vietnamese culture tends to be more matriarchal than elsewhere). Maybe why also a lot of Japanese electronic makers (Pentax, Nikon) had a bigg…

Post by dmitrygr » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 1:47 AM UTC

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Commonly held incorrect belief. Educate yourself: https://knowledge.uchicago.edu/record/2005?ln=en

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