Any time you read a headline like this, replace the innocuous-sounding non-crime (“tweeting”) with “upsetting people in power.” Suddenly you’ll realise that the same kind of thing happens everywhere in the world. E.g.: Julian Assange, who’s main crime was upsetting people in power . Unless you think it’s a crime worthy of being hounded for over a decade by multiple nations’ security agencies for trying to — and faili…
Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for tweeting
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no hypocrisy there, like everything in life, including startup life, everything comes down to money. And money is power. The US created the Saudi Arabian powerhouse we see today. We need them to keep our economic inertia moving forward at a pace acceptable for the populace. Is it a travesty? 100% But we made this bed.
Americans like to pretend that we fight for higher ideals than naked self interest or national interest.
It is true to say that much that is represented as being about ideals is really something else in disguise. And there is rampant corruption and so forth.
But it takes cynicism too far to say that ideals never factor in. There are many principled people with ideals having impact in the world every day, and there is nothing enlightened about deriding their efforts or pretending they don't exist.
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#141. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/31/23004339/uk-twitter-user-...
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#15Any time you read a headline like this, replace the innocuous-sounding non-crime (“tweeting”) with “upsetting people in power.” Suddenly you’ll realise that the same kind of thing happens everywhere in the world. E.g.: Julian Assange, who’s main crime was upsetting people in power . Unless you think it’s a crime worthy of being hounded for over a decade by multiple nations’ security agencies for trying to — and faili…
Not really. Tweeting your opinion is legal, leaking state secrets not so.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charg...
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#16Any time you read a headline like this, replace the innocuous-sounding non-crime (“tweeting”) with “upsetting people in power.” Suddenly you’ll realise that the same kind of thing happens everywhere in the world. E.g.: Julian Assange, who’s main crime was upsetting people in power . Unless you think it’s a crime worthy of being hounded for over a decade by multiple nations’ security agencies for trying to — and faili…
But the threshold for upsetting people in power varies. So this sed doesn’t give us any extra insight or predictive power. For example I can say “The Jewish people upset the Nazi party in Germany during WW2”
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#17I'm reminded of how under in the UK a person was made to do community service after making a tweet.[1] Obviously not as steep of a sentencing, but a prosecution nonetheless. I only point that out because reading these headlines now doesn't make me feel protective of liberal democracy, it only makes me despair of a global trend. 1. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/31/23004339/uk-twitter-user-...
https://fee.org/articles/uk-man-arrested-for-malicious-commu...
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans like to pretend that we fight for higher ideals than naked self interest or national interest.
Americans fight for ideals all the time. Individual Americans do, and this includes individuals in government. It is true to say that much that is represented as being about ideals is really something else in disguise. And there is rampant corruption and so forth. But it takes cynicism too far to say that ideals never factor in. There are many principled people with ideals having impact in the world every day, and th…