I worked at a company where this was an issue at one point (granted this was one situation among a lot of employees). A manager was pretty much dismissive of everything anyone of a lower caste did / wouldn't communicate with them effectively. HR absolutely struggled with the issue. The HR folks tasked with dealing with discrimination issues largely had spent their time constructing company wide emails and classes tha…
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Your surname literally gives it away.
Not really. You’ve no way to find out the caste of a Prasad or Kumar or Deshmukh or a Muralidharan
Upper caste
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Religion, especially in public life, has made a big comeback under the current ruling party. This party is also generally considered an upper-caste party. I assume much of it is due to implicit soft support from the ruling establishment.
Modi is of lower caste. Most of the BJP leadership is lower caste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modh
A lot of Vaishyas have been certifying themselves as Backward caste in order to obtain affirmative action privileges. Including the dominant caste in Gujarat, the Patels - with the Patidar movement.
Modis were added to OBC list in 2002. This is a subversion of affirmative action which was meant to help lower castes, not upper castes.
BJP is primarily composed of upper castes. Only performative functions like Presidency are granted to lower castes.
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Not really. You’ve no way to find out the caste of a Prasad or Kumar or Deshmukh or a Muralidharan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deshmukh Upper caste
> However, the title Deshmukh should not be associated to a particular religion or caste
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What does it mean to judge someone on the content of their character? It can be just as easily superficial as choosing to bring in a different kind of sandwhich to work. Taking food down to a homeless man on the side of a street and filming it, is noble and worthy of praise but has limited practical impact on your ability to judge the person accurately. He could be doing it for the wrong reasons. He could be doing it…
You think it is a good thing for people to change for their colleagues? “i see you are offended by my bologna sandwich, forgive me, I will switch to filet mignon in order to make you feel more comfortable.” Ridiculous. A well oiled ship has not a thing to do with superficial parts. People need to lose this ego & trying to control every little thing about those around them. It is a job, not a church or a dictatorship.…
'Anyone with a brain' is not the compliment you think it is.
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#656Out of curiosity, for Indians working in America, how hard is it to hide your caste or pretend to be of another caste altogether? Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? Do names tend to correlate to you caste? And if so, do people change them as a way of hiding their family caste?
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#657I think this is a reason why Leetcode style interviews are popular. They remove at least one type of bias of race - the ability to solve coding problems. If you can solve Online Assessment, Phone Assessment and Onsites, you keep moving on to the next round, regardless of your race or ethnicity. It is a way for companies to claim that there is no bias in hiring.
This just introduces another type of bias, the "did you just graduate from a top 30 CS school or are you able to spend 6-12 months teaching yourself DS/Algorithms while working full time" bias. Lots of "Stockholm syndrome" surrounding Leetcode style interviewing practices.
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>Nobody seems to question why such a system (varna/jati/caste) exists in the first place. Probably because it's assumed that reasonable know the answer: othering people and out-group hostility are utterly pervasive, even "natural" human behaviors. >in fact, all the people crying for meritocracy are going to come running back to this system when they realize it is designed to be 100% meritocractic. Unfalsifiable claim…
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>Nobody seems to question why such a system (varna/jati/caste) exists in the first place. Probably because it's assumed that reasonable know the answer: othering people and out-group hostility are utterly pervasive, even "natural" human behaviors. >in fact, all the people crying for meritocracy are going to come running back to this system when they realize it is designed to be 100% meritocractic. Unfalsifiable claim…
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So you justify a discriminatory social order that ossifies your place at the top by pointing to your religious belief in reincarnation. Surely you can see that that is not a compelling argument to anyone who doesn't share your religious beliefs. Religion is constantly used to justify bigotry. For kicks, I'd like to take on your argument for reincarnation. You argue that there must be a reason some people are born int…