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Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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It's nothing that requires much research. The current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds. 7 years of this, and people who used to think "Caste is a taboo subject, and we should be working around it", now think "Caste pride is cool".

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You've spammed this comment 7 times now. My reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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In my opinion, companies should produce "challenges" for leading personal, from a sort of internal investigations team, and among them should be corruption challenges, security challenges, nepotism challenges and discrimination challenges. If you fail them, you get demoted or otherwise restructured. Of course, this creates a atmosphere of distrust, but some things, like Meritocratic atmosphere, are worth it.

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You've spammed this comment 7 times now. My reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32494149

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Genetic mutations and recombinations, as has been known for centuries. There is no need to make up some overarching esoteric narrative out of thin air that has people on the losing side of the lottery somehow "deserve" it.

> Genetic mutations and recombinations

and why do THOSE happen ?

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Don't you think posting a comment once is enough?

if there was a way to notify multiple interested parties with one comment and multiple mentions, i would love to do that.

you only feel like it is spam cos you came to the comment section late. my audience however are people who commented earlier.

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It produced a stagnated society, which fell behind the rest of the world and was conquered by the british as punishment. And will be conquered by the next society that does embrace inner turmoil and change, creating competition. Regarding the natural order of things and stability, i have my very own opinions, i have voiced here, which got me downvote left, right and center. We would not have google maps, if the map m…

> was conquered by the british as punishment

lol. the varna system existed when Mughals invaded too. and you think it doesn't exist now ?

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So you justify a discriminatory social order that ossifies your place at the top by pointing to your religious belief in reincarnation. Surely you can see that that is not a compelling argument to anyone who doesn't share your religious beliefs. Religion is constantly used to justify bigotry. For kicks, I'd like to take on your argument for reincarnation. You argue that there must be a reason some people are born int…

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> it is always the lowest ranks that complain about a lack of equality. It is the sour grapes fox story all over again. I wonder if you'd complain about them grapes if your caste's job was to clean toilets/sewers and nothing else. With no hope or support to pursue any other line of work, irrespective of merit or personal interests. To be humiliated, looked down upon, shunned all your life and be denied access to qual…

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>Nobody seems to question why such a system (varna/jati/caste) exists in the first place. Probably because it's assumed that reasonable know the answer: othering people and out-group hostility are utterly pervasive, even "natural" human behaviors. >in fact, all the people crying for meritocracy are going to come running back to this system when they realize it is designed to be 100% meritocractic. Unfalsifiable claim…

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Casteism, while bad, is not racism. Saying casteism is ingrained in Indians on the other hand is racism.

The Caste system is as old as India itself, from ancient India: the varna, and the joti. The Indian Government itself recognizes how deep it goes, and based their Affirmative Action program upon it. To say it's not ingrained is simply choosing to ignore the problem is there. It's not saying "all Indians are casteist" but recognizing, much like the American South pre-Jim Crow, it was ingrained in society. https://en.w…

I’m from what would be considered a backwards caste in my ancestral state in India, and thus qualify for affirmative action quotas. So I’m actually very qualified to say so when I say that casteism isn’t ingrained in the diaspora.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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I have mixed feelings on this. There are of course things that aren't explicitly prohibited by workplace policies but are no doubt unacceptable - e.g. discriminating against left-handed employees. But it's still useful to have explicit policies against caste discrimination to make clear that it's unacceptable. On the other hand, as an Indian in a top tech company we're more likely to experience racism than casteism (…

> and this policy is likely to increase racism and result in Indians (and other South Asians) getting singled-out and scrutinized for casteism. Is it? Do Whites get singled out and scrutinized for anti-black racism? Maybe they do, but if it is I doubt it's a significant phenomenon.

I can’t speak to what whites experience on a personal level, but I can say that my company paid Robin deAngelo to give a talk on “white fragility”, which I found rather offensive, and I’m not even white.
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