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RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by HenriTEL »

Naracion wrote: post #237

Ex graphic designer here, but don't (and never have) used Mac. I highly respect this project and initiative, and the following is more a commentary on my own reaction than your product. I read the title--finesse of MacOS. I open the link, and the first thing I see at the top is the circular raven logo vertically misaligned with the header on mobile. That made me think, okay let's try desktop version instead, so I swi…

To be fair, I remember the apple website rendering pretty badly on mobile device for a long time, at some point it actually made me feel like this company had really low UI standards. (I think it was the versions between 2007 and 2017 and didn't used their products at that time)

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by mardifoufs »

kristjank wrote: post #177
pjmlp wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As that quote clearly puts out, it is mostly cherry picked components, and not a proper FreeBSD distribution.

Juniper gear runs JunOS that's almost pure FreeBSD, with added device drivers for their hardware and a CLI layer on top.

The next version of JunOS, JunOS evolved, is moving to Linux though.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by [deleted] »

Naracion wrote: post #237

Ex graphic designer here, but don't (and never have) used Mac. I highly respect this project and initiative, and the following is more a commentary on my own reaction than your product. I read the title--finesse of MacOS. I open the link, and the first thing I see at the top is the circular raven logo vertically misaligned with the header on mobile. That made me think, okay let's try desktop version instead, so I swi…

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Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by sleepybrett »

ireflect wrote: post #260
hiccuphippo wrote: post #256

Does MacOS really have that finesse they try to emulate? First thing I noticed when I started using a mac is that double clicking the Finder titlebar only expands it vertically while every other app expands both vertically and horizontally. Second thing, when I close a window and then press Cmd+tab, the icon is still there, and if I select it nothing shows up. There's more of these everyday things that work sloppy so…

> double clicking the Finder titlebar only expands it vertically while every other app expands both vertically and horizontally For me it fits-to-content both vertically and horizontally. I just tested in both list- and icon-view. Mac OS 12. > When I close a window and then press Cmd+tab, the icon is still there This is because the Mac UI application/document conceptual model, which has been consistent since at least…

Just a note, if you are in the context of a particular application command+`/~ will cycle you through the applications windows.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by kkielhofner »

amrox wrote: post #278

For the page: > You will need real hardware to run it. Why doesn't it work in a VM?

It is strange. Just downloaded and tried to boot in a KVM+Qemu VM targeting FreeBSD 13 (virsh). Booted but kernel hung with an obscure launchd dispatching job message. I haven't used FreeBSD consistently since the 4.x days so I have no idea what this means.

Looks interesting enough to play around with but for such an ambitious project VM support should be one of the first dev priorities not only for dev and testing but for users wanting to take it for a spin.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by [deleted] »

Naracion wrote: post #237

Ex graphic designer here, but don't (and never have) used Mac. I highly respect this project and initiative, and the following is more a commentary on my own reaction than your product. I read the title--finesse of MacOS. I open the link, and the first thing I see at the top is the circular raven logo vertically misaligned with the header on mobile. That made me think, okay let's try desktop version instead, so I swi…

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Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by tinus_hn »

moogleii wrote: post #263
hiccuphippo wrote: post #256

Does MacOS really have that finesse they try to emulate? First thing I noticed when I started using a mac is that double clicking the Finder titlebar only expands it vertically while every other app expands both vertically and horizontally. Second thing, when I close a window and then press Cmd+tab, the icon is still there, and if I select it nothing shows up. There's more of these everyday things that work sloppy so…

Unlike Windows, there's a separation of concepts between "application" and "windows" on Mac. Closing all the windows of an app doesn't imply closing the app. I actually think the Windows way is sloppy (and I came from Windows). I want that kind of granular control. So many times back in the day, I'd accidentally close all my Internet Explorer windows, and have to pay the time-cost of reopening the app from scratch. I…

Windows has a similar distinction between applications that have one window per open document (SDI for Single Document Interface) and applications that have one window with tiny windows inside for each document (MDI for multiple document interference).

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by [deleted] »

Naracion wrote: post #237

Ex graphic designer here, but don't (and never have) used Mac. I highly respect this project and initiative, and the following is more a commentary on my own reaction than your product. I read the title--finesse of MacOS. I open the link, and the first thing I see at the top is the circular raven logo vertically misaligned with the header on mobile. That made me think, okay let's try desktop version instead, so I swi…

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Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by throwaway7980 »

Kayou wrote: post #159
Sakos wrote: post #4

I don't know why the mobile version crawls when I scroll past the images on my high-end Samsung.

Same on MacOS and Firefox with a 4K screen ans same on Firefox and a Pixel 6, scrolling lags hard on the section with pictures. Making a bad first impression of this new OS.

> Making a bad first impression of this new OS.

This is more than a little ridiculous and you know it.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by kps »

still_grokking wrote: post #83
paldepind2 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One needs only to avoid GTK stuff, Electron, and Windows Software, and one gets perfectly consistent behavior. So as long as one avoids all the inconsistencies then one gets consistent shortcuts? ;) Only using Qt apps on Linux is very hard. A lot of good apps are GTK or Electron. On macOS there is no GTK & Qt divide and Electron apps are very good at implementing macOS shortcuts. Hence you get more consistent bindi…

> Only using Qt apps on Linux is very hard. There are even whole distris doing that… ;-) https://kaosx.us/ I have hardly any GTK app installed and I would not know what I'm missing. (Firefox uses GTK but it has it's own UI anyway). Electron? That's the plague of modern times. Besides VSCode (which I will switch away in a blink as soon as the alternatives are ready) I don't use any Electron peep . Also here I would no…

How do you get Firefox to respect Cmd (Meta) consistently? I find it's been half broken since Quantum.
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