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RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by actionfromafar »

Diris wrote: post #164
spidey1 wrote: post #144

How does this compare to Hello System? [1] [1] https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/

From the FAQ[0] ---------------- helloSystem: We have been in fact working with helloSystem! As some people have noticed, Release 0.2.X was basically helloSystem. (That was the second PoC. The first had been built on vanilla FreeBSD and had no GUI at all.) Under the hood, however, release 0.2.2 has a partial implementation of Cocoa, a modified compiler & linker that support frameworks, and several other additions tha…

I hope it sticks around. If it's around long enough, it can be an alternative in its own right. Ever since ElementaryOS lost momentum (or really never found it, rather) I have been looking for a "third way". RavynOS could be a great way to develop Mac apps and also target the apps for RavynOS. Could be great for music appliances and whatnot.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by jamil7 »

grishka wrote: post #196
chrismsimpson wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SwiftUI is an intermediate step in this transition. Expect the UIKit/AppKit bits to eventually disappear.

Except SwiftUI is itself built on top of AppKit/UIKit.

Many of the views are, but some do not bind to AppKit/UIKit and instead are drawn directly (I think maybe Image is one?). The idea is you could keep SwiftUI's API stable while deprecating AppKit/UIKit piecemeal underneath.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by rattray »

I really hope they build some kind of application registry, including listing projects that don't yet work on RavynOS, so that the community can see which packages are most in-demand, what % of apps that people want are supported, reviews from others on stability for the platform, etc.

Could bootstrap this by looking at everything in Homebrew (including casks) and sharing whether it seems to work on RavynOS yet (or whether it's ambiguous, and how you can help disambiguate).

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by zitsarethecure »

solardev wrote: post #84
JacobSeated wrote: post #64

KDE is a better desktop environment than MacOS, by far. I have had so many usability issues with my Mac that does not exist in KDE/Linux. E.g. Apple confining the GUI and not including basic functionality. Specifically: - I really miss a decent address bar in finder that can be edited directly - some windows on mac are always on top, preventing access to other windows. E.g. Password dialogs for encrypted hard drives.…

Coming from the Windows and Linux worlds, I had similar frustrations with the primitive Mac UI. Mostly a better keyboard shortcuts/window timer fixed them for me (Magnet). There are still some issues but they are relatively minor. What made me stick with the platform though was never having to worry about drivers, and updates being polite and patient, and not being bombarded with a billion ads everywhere like in Wind…

> Also not having to drop into the command line to change monitor settings is nice.

I can't remember the last time I had to do this on Linux. Sometime in the the 90's, I think.

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by nix23 »

justthinkhn wrote: post #54

This is a dead end. FreeBSD, lmao. Why not choose Linux, which supports way more hardware and features. Not promising for the general quality of decision making.

Those Linux fanboy's always remind me of the song from NOFX "The Idiots Are Taking Over" -> Opensource ;)

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by gattilorenz »

pseudalopex wrote: post #169
michaelmrose wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most entries in posters list are complaints with how things work. Two of these seem like bugs. > Sometimes audio balance will randomly shift to the left or right with bluetooth headphones > There is a delay of ~100ms when pushing caps lock Another seems objective not subjective > Pressing enter in Finder renames a file instead of opening it Who thinks the enter to rename is reasonable?

Audio balance seems like a bug. Caps Lock delay seems like accidental activation prevention. Who thinks F2 to rename is reasonable?

> Audio balance seems like a bug

A long standing one actually. I remember having it in Mojave/El Capitan already on my 2102 MBP.

The others are annoyances from not being familiar with the UI, some more motivated than others. But let’s recall the sad story of the thumbnails in GNOME’s file picker, for a second…

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by prmoustache »

jetpackjoe wrote: post #18

Being able to CMD+c to copy things in a terminal is one of my favorite things about programming on a Mac. Ctrl+c to copy everywhere, except the terminal (there it instead is an interrupt) is a major annoyance working in Linux

The difference being that on linux you are for the most part free to implement the keybindings you want.

Example on Kitty, my current preferred terminal emulator this is just a few map directives away in the config:

map ctrl+c copy_to_clipboard

map ctrl+v paste_from_clipboard

map ctrl+shift+c send_text all \x03

Re: RavynOS – Finesse of macOS, freedom of FreeBSD

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Post by znpy »

I looks worthless to me.

If you’re doing this kind of things, you’d better be producing and selling your reference laptop/desktop computer too.

Otherwise all I expect from seeing the FreeBSD logo is 2005-ish hardware support nightmares (thanks but no thanks, I’m not a teenager anymore).

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