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Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by garaetjjte »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #178
natch wrote: post #162

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And other cars don't support Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, and arcade games while in Park, which are great when waiting for something, as well as Spotify, TuneIn, etc., so I guess we're even? I'd rather have a bunch of competing services rather than just a generic UI from one vendor that's always pushing service upgrade packages like Apple One. I suspect CarPlay and Android Auto come with strings attached from Appl…

Nonsense. Android Auto (and likely CarPlay as well) is just a video player. They just take H.265 frames and feed it to the head unit, and feed user feedback back to the phone. Audio stack is I believe somehow piggybacked off Bluetooth, but I could be wrong. As far as I know no software from Google runs on the head unit itself.

Google provides C++ receiver library. Bluetooth is only used for voice calls. Some scraps of documentation are there: https://milek7.pl/.stuff/galdocs/huig13_cache.html

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by CamperBob2 »

ct0 wrote: post #140
CamperBob2 wrote: post #43

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Buy it quick. Even the Macan has a stupid piano-black console touch panel in its current generation.

My previous version Porsche (958) has a button for newly every function. Its very similar to a small plane and it 100% allows me to focus on the road and whats important without looking at the change of function.

Exactly, same for my 95B.2. I bought it right after the 95B.3 spy shots came out. No regrets.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by parineum »

andrewla wrote: post #34
lotsofpulp wrote: post #22

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I have had no issues with wired CarPlay. Do you have wireless CarPlay? I have not heard of that being reliable yet. If both of you are wiring into CarPlay, I do not see why Kia would allow two wired connections to CarPlay.

The issue is that the car tries to decide which phone to have take over CarPlay. I actually have a cigarette lighter USB adapter so at least a second person can charge without confusing the poor car. I generally find CarPlay to be annoying -- it is too limiting a version of what is offered on the phone itself. Notably the last time I tried to use it, it did not have Google Play Music support (now that product is dead…

> Notably the last time I tried to use it, it did not have Google Play Music support (now that product is dead...

I can't speak to CarPlay but Android Auto has changed a ton in that time frame. I think both options are just reaching an actual maturity recently as there is both decent support in a number of vehicles and a notable user base that actually uses the technology. You were certainly an early adopter, code for beta tester.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by jonnybgood »

megablast wrote: post #186
Dig1t wrote: post #177

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I completely agree with your conclusion, this is why I feel that European tech companies can't compete with US ones at all. They just refuse to pay enough to attract the best engineers.

What a strange comment. Ford is a us tech company. Most people in Europe don’t want to leave.

Ford is not a tech company.

> Most people in Europe don’t want to leave.

I believe they're saying if European tech companies want to compete in business with US tech companies they need to pay their engineers more money.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by namecheapTA »

ajross wrote: post #149
namecheapTA wrote: post #111

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And here I was thinking it was used by people that appreciate their local police force and understand the stresses they are under.

If that were true, it would have arisen spontaneously and not been rolled out as countermessaging to a protest movement about police violence. No, this is 100% a political symbol with partisan (though not strictly party-aligned) intent, not a celebration of law enforcement. I don't think it's helpful to call it "racist", but neither is it appropriate to pretend that this isn't at least in some sense a "Fuck BLM" symb…

It can be a response to people taking a handful of incidents and ignoring the millions of safe and courteous police interactions a year. So while it may have been a response to cries about police violence, it doesn't automatically become some white supremacist pro police violence symbol....

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by karaterobot »

metadat wrote: post #156

Why are dealerships in the mix at all for Ford EVs? Seems like a good time to start selling direct to consumers over the web.

Sounds like that's the plan, at least for the Model E division.

https://jalopnik.com/ford-ceo-wants-to-abolish-the-dealershi...

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by symlinkk »

kodah wrote: post #114

> The result is that the software experience of the Lightning often feels trapped in the past, with no clear path to the future because Ford’s real software efforts lie elsewhere. I have a Ford Fusion. The software has remained essentially untouched since I bought it. They rely almost entirely on Android Auto, which has it's own host of bugs and incompatibilities. There's a primary learning from Tesla to be made here…

I disagree, Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are great. The problem comes when the manufacturer’s interface collides with the Android / Apple interface. Just build a great touchscreen, let Android / Apple handle everything they can, and leave the rest (HVAC controls, volume controls) as physical buttons and switches. You get the best of both worlds - no need to pay an in house team of software engineers who will never be able to compete with Google or Apple anyway, and you please your customers who by and large want physical buttons and knobs.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by _carbyau_ »

vel0city wrote: post #159
uluyol wrote: post #153

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Maybe because its burning hot out and people need high AC to cool down. Or the opposite in cold weather. Or to defrost windshield/rear window. Climate control is a great feature. But it's not perfect, and there are instances where you need to manually override. Just because you don't run into them doesn't mean they don't exist. EDIT: BTW on cars with physical controls all of these things are either button press or di…

So here's an example. It's over 100F outside, my car is probably 115F inside it at the moment. Setting my car to 70F inside instead of it's current 72F won't make it cool any faster. Even setting it to it's "LO" setting won't make it cool any faster. The AC compressor is either on or off. The car will set the fan speed to it's best possible speed to cool the car as fast as it can regardless of it being 72 or 70 or 68…

Alternately, I don't care about he speed of change.

That blazing sun shining on you via radiation directly feels different than if the sky is overcast.

I want to easily tweak the temp to account for my personal comfort. I don't care about the temp of the air except as an input to helping me be comfortable.

I don't want to have to start and then sit in my car idling to wait until it gets to temp only to find out I want a little more or less.

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