Why??? Climate controls should not be on a touchscreen. Display is fine, but control is not. Just leave space for some knobs and a mode switch.
Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer
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#32They strapped on an Android tablet and called it a day. From my experience (ex-mobile game dev, Medical SaaS), Android tablets are very slow. We encourage our customers to not buy Android tablets because the patient experience is not the greatest.
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#33Generally speaking the horrifying quality of Ford's electronics have been enough to keep me away from even considering purchasing one. Absolutely nothing works right and certainly nothing works well. It may or may not be able to connect bluetooth, it may or may not acknowledge a USB device, it may or may not start blaring whatever FM station was last tuned in for no reason on startup, or start playing the first album…
This happens in every car I own. Chevy. Kia. Ram. I agree the phone should do everything. The equivalent of an old aux cord (maybe via BT) would be enough. My Kia does have CarPlay, which is very nice for maps and audio, but that’s all I really use. It still has all kinds of issues. My wife plugs in her phone (cable) and it takes over, then suddenly mine wins it back, she flicks some stuff on her screen to get it bac…
Ford Sync, on the other hand, once it decides that it is trying to connect to bluetooth, will often completely lock up the system for minutes while it tries unsuccessfully to make things work, and then you have to navigate through their UI to get back to a good state, which means that if it decides to glitch while you're driving, you're just out of luck. If you have a little bit of luck your phone will just play the driving directions out of its internal speaker.
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This happens in every car I own. Chevy. Kia. Ram. I agree the phone should do everything. The equivalent of an old aux cord (maybe via BT) would be enough. My Kia does have CarPlay, which is very nice for maps and audio, but that’s all I really use. It still has all kinds of issues. My wife plugs in her phone (cable) and it takes over, then suddenly mine wins it back, she flicks some stuff on her screen to get it bac…
I have had no issues with wired CarPlay. Do you have wireless CarPlay? I have not heard of that being reliable yet. If both of you are wiring into CarPlay, I do not see why Kia would allow two wired connections to CarPlay.
I generally find CarPlay to be annoying -- it is too limiting a version of what is offered on the phone itself. Notably the last time I tried to use it, it did not have Google Play Music support (now that product is dead, and I suppose by now they probably do support Youtube Music), and it refused to let me use maps in a "north-up" orientation, which is just a non-starter for me.
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#35Generally speaking the horrifying quality of Ford's electronics have been enough to keep me away from even considering purchasing one. Absolutely nothing works right and certainly nothing works well. It may or may not be able to connect bluetooth, it may or may not acknowledge a USB device, it may or may not start blaring whatever FM station was last tuned in for no reason on startup, or start playing the first album…
Compared to my 2017 Chrysler which can't really turn off the radio, only mute it, which doesn't hold across start cycles, and refused to work with my wife's phone for 6 months (probably a Nokia Android firmware issue, because it stopped working with a phone update and started working again with a phone update, but it worked on the Ford the whole time), and the head unit has crashed while in motion a handful of times, the Ford isn't so bad.
But everything is terrible, and I look forward to a future where the phone does most of the work. Although, my (couple of years ago) experience with Android Auto is I'd rather use Android directly, and not let it know it's in a car.
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#36We all know BEVs are fast - even a 1960's UK electric milkfloat is amazingly speedy from standstill - but I'd say Ford are years away from their BEVs being viable and reliable, not least due to lack of charging network. The lousy towing performances on BEV trucks rings alarm bells too. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-elect...
A little off topic but it appears Anne Heche's vehicle was a hybrid or BEV and caused a huge fire, one of my biggest BEV concerns - It took nearly 60 firefighters more than an hour to douse the flames.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/202...
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this is addressed in the article. You can just Cmd/Ctrl+F for the word CarPlay for an answer. There’s a quick action button to navigate back home on the map widget, but it just opens the map app full-screen, defeating the purpose of the widget entirely. I’d love to have CarPlay open to handle my phone and messaging alongside the radio, but that’s not possible, even though the display is clearly big enough to show bot…
“If you want to plot out a route with accurate range estimates and an effective charging strategy, you have to use the built-in nav” I saw that phrase in the story and came here to comment and saw this thread. I think we should be honest with ourselves about recent history: Apple and Google will be quicker to roll out functionality for EV specific navigation (i.e. chargers) in their apps then car manufacturers will b…
I think you are missing the point of what the actual problem here is. Apple and Google already show EV charging stations on their maps just fine, you can even filter by type of charging (CCS, CHADeMO, etc.). That's not the issue.
The issue is the navigation system using information about your vehicle in real time (current outside temperature[0], battery charge remaining, speed, AC usage, calculated estimate of distance of range remaining using all the info above, etc.) to automatically create a route to your final destination that includes charging station stops on the way. To calculate the frequency of those stops, locations, how long you will need to spend charging there in the most optimal way (e.g., it is actually much faster to make 2 stops to charge from 15% to 50% than to stop 1 time to charge from 15% to to 85%), you need real time data about your own vehicle specifically.
Unless Google and Apple somehow get access to that live data from the vehicle itself in real time, that functionality is impossible to implement. And, naturally, the only entity that would have that info is the car nav system itself. Plus, I don't think many users would be enthusiastic about sharing such sensitive information with Apple or Google.
0. In case anyone is curious why outside temperature is relevant, EVs take outside temperature into their calculation of estimated range, because lower temperatures reduce range available.
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#38It's not much Ford, it's ANY OEMs I know of...
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I'm firmly in the camp that it's not patriotic to stylize the American flag in any way... but I'd love it if you expanded on how this version is racist.
The flag on the Lightning isn't that flag, but it does resemble it.
Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer
#40Generally speaking the horrifying quality of Ford's electronics have been enough to keep me away from even considering purchasing one. Absolutely nothing works right and certainly nothing works well. It may or may not be able to connect bluetooth, it may or may not acknowledge a USB device, it may or may not start blaring whatever FM station was last tuned in for no reason on startup, or start playing the first album…
Doesn't the article literally mentioning them partnering with Google and using Android Automotive instead of their own UI? I'd guess they know all too well about everything you mentioned and have given up.