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Do you know why this happened?
It's nothing that requires much research. The current national government openly supports discrimination on religious and caste based backgrounds. 7 years of this, and people who used to think "Caste is a taboo subject, and we should be working around it", now think "Caste pride is cool".
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Casteism is much more worse. You or your children or your grandchildren atleast have a chance on moving up in class in a capitalistic society like West. In Casteist society you neither your descendants can ever leave your caste and will always face discrimination does not matter how much money you have.
You can just change your surname. Nobody will be able to tell your caste. Upward mobility in castes is a lot given the world has moved a lot from the traditional four profession system of priest, warrior, trader and labourer. People work in professions different than their so called caste. This is especially true of immigrants coming to US.
Also there are other factors which can tell which caste you actually belong to.
Your birthplace. Your parent's birthplace. Which part of the city you were born in. The accent you speak your mother tongue in.
These are benign questions that your indian colleague might ask or notice.
I dont think the current form in which casteism is practiced in India is related to profession.
Right now in India, lower caste people are mostly free to pursue any profession (unless you go to rural areas).
Discrimination comes from the fact that higer caste people simply despise/hate/consider lower caste people impure or inferior.
I worked at a company where this was an issue at one point (granted this was one situation among a lot of employees). A manager was pretty much dismissive of everything anyone of a lower caste did / wouldn't communicate with them effectively. HR absolutely struggled with the issue. The HR folks tasked with dealing with discrimination issues largely had spent their time constructing company wide emails and classes tha…
To Apple they are all Indian.
Underrated comment. Not sure if roschdal@ intended it this way, but I interpreted it in a dark way.
I worked at a company where this was an issue at one point (granted this was one situation among a lot of employees). A manager was pretty much dismissive of everything anyone of a lower caste did / wouldn't communicate with them effectively. HR absolutely struggled with the issue. The HR folks tasked with dealing with discrimination issues largely had spent their time constructing company wide emails and classes tha…
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I worked at a company where this was an issue at one point (granted this was one situation among a lot of employees). A manager was pretty much dismissive of everything anyone of a lower caste did / wouldn't communicate with them effectively. HR absolutely struggled with the issue. The HR folks tasked with dealing with discrimination issues largely had spent their time constructing company wide emails and classes tha…
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Out of curiosity, for Indians working in America, how hard is it to hide your caste or pretend to be of another caste altogether? Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? Do names tend to correlate to you caste? And if so, do people change them as a way of hiding their family caste?
Interestingly, I grew up in India but have no clue what my caste is. I could probably ask my parents and they'd know but it has never come up. Religion and sub ethnicity came up a lot more often while growing up. Funnily enough the only ones who have ever asked me about my caste were white people. I had always assumed the caste system was a thing of the past but looking at how it's still present even at companies in…
looks the other way when Indian director has all Indian SDMs reporting to him It’s all lip service. Nepotism is rampant at FAANG
I love when there is a position that sounds awesome but then says something like: "Hispanic or other underprivileged groups are encouraged to apply". It's legal to say that out loud?
I worked at a company where this was an issue at one point (granted this was one situation among a lot of employees). A manager was pretty much dismissive of everything anyone of a lower caste did / wouldn't communicate with them effectively. HR absolutely struggled with the issue. The HR folks tasked with dealing with discrimination issues largely had spent their time constructing company wide emails and classes tha…
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People take a really small sample set and paint the whole world with a very wide brush
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You are treading dangerous waters here. Why paying a decent wage and have a nice work-life balance when there are people in the 3rd word working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and for pennies? Worker's rights should expand towards the world, not the other way around.
There's a balance to have. I tried to focus more on tech industry. Tech industry is paying well beyond decent wage. You have to take things in perspective. You are comparing apples to oranges. Again I am not disagreeing with expanding workers rights. Beyond any of these discussions, I was attempting to make an objective observation: The current status of American corporations value those who will put in more hours, a…
That is…unfortunately, exactly the opposite of what happens more often than not.
More often than not - promotions are accrued through social credit and personal preference.
You will quite often see the hardest working people get passed by for a promotion for the manager’s friend, etc.
Your ‘objective observation’ is…not accurate.
If this was the way it was - we wouldn’t need laws related to racism, sexism, etc in hiring practices.
I don’t know what kind of idealistic fantasy America you’re imagining up, but in the real one that exists on Earth these are serious problems.