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Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Post by onion2k »

shapefrog wrote: post #184
paiute wrote: post #155

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White americans do this too. Think ozarks. I know plenty of ridiculously smart people from this region, who if they talked about the food they ate or didn't work hard to extinguish their accents would probably not have jobs w/ coastal tech companies.

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In my experience that's not true at all. People from all strata of society wore those red hats. It's not a signal of class or 'caste' or anything similar. I've never met anyone who'd open carry an assault rifle, but again, I doubt you can really tell much about their background like whether they're rich, poor, working class, elite, or whatever else from it.

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Post by dymk »

shapefrog wrote: post #184
paiute wrote: post #155

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White americans do this too. Think ozarks. I know plenty of ridiculously smart people from this region, who if they talked about the food they ate or didn't work hard to extinguish their accents would probably not have jobs w/ coastal tech companies.

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The first is political affiliation, and the second is simply being an idiot, neither of which are markers of caste nor protected classes.

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Post by eertami »

netsharc wrote: post #150
snickerbockers wrote: post #132

out of curiosity, how does casteism even work? Is it like racism in that you can look at somebody and usually figure out what caste they are visually?

I know one of the identifiers is one's surname, for more detail: https://www.quora.com/In-India-how-do-you-tell-what-caste-so...

I might be missing something obvious, but why doesn't everyone (particularly those living abroad) just change their name to a high caste one?

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

shapefrog wrote: post #184
paiute wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

White americans do this too. Think ozarks. I know plenty of ridiculously smart people from this region, who if they talked about the food they ate or didn't work hard to extinguish their accents would probably not have jobs w/ coastal tech companies.

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That's not really caste because it's not based upon any immutable characteristic. Political affiliation is not caste.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

PaulHoule wrote: post #73
squabbles wrote: post #65

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Cisco is famous for being sued for all sides. They let go of middle-aged white people (who sue) and then hire young Indians they can underpay (who also sue.)

I mean I'm kinda glad they sue instead of roll over and take the pay. International hiring at lower pay is a capitalist strategy you see everywhere.

I watched a Business Insider video a while ago about (of all things) mushroom farmers somewhere in the US. They bluntly admitted they lost tens of thousands of dollars worth of crop because they couldn't find staff. They couldn't find staff because they only hired south-American people, and they only hired south-American people because they were cheaper.

Very long story short, under capitalism, employers don't want to pay their staff.

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shapefrog wrote: post #184
paiute wrote: post #155

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White americans do this too. Think ozarks. I know plenty of ridiculously smart people from this region, who if they talked about the food they ate or didn't work hard to extinguish their accents would probably not have jobs w/ coastal tech companies.

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Post by dymk »

ketanmaheshwari wrote: post #76

This is a good step forward but wait until Apple realizes that Indians discriminate on many other factors including but not limited to skin color, state of origin, region of origin (North vs South vs NorthEast), mother tongue, religion (Hindu vs Muslim), Political beliefs (Left vs Right).

One of these is not like the others.

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Post by londons_explore »

A lot of companies try to make policies against things that ought to be dealt with by law enforcement.

"Did inappropriate things to someone at the Christmas party" being the classic... That sort of thing should be dealt with by the legal system where the accused has the right to a fair trial etc.

Obviously the legal system might need some streamlining to take on the extra workload

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Post by 40acres »

Kudos to Apple - I wonder how does this work in practice. Policing discrimination is difficult period, however for better or worse racial and gender discrimination have a visual impact which makes it somewhat easier to identify. From what I've learned there are a lot of niche aspects to caste discrimination and I wonder what sort of guidelines Apple has built internally to monitor this. Does Apple know which caste their employees traditionally belong to?
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