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Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by molticrystal »

gaoshan wrote: post #8

Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

A moderator must moderate vigorously or the admins will eventually take over the sub or shut it down, or both. Every sub of decent size if you search the mod logs has admin activity at some point, even if it is infrequent. I don't see this trend reversing, Anderson Cooper put fear into Condé Nast, and I would imagine all those who run the site and many who don't believe rightly so.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by abandonliberty »

unethical_ban wrote: post #12
gaoshan wrote: post #8

Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

Agreed. I'm progressive and try to engage in good faith, but have been banned from a number of subs such as whitepeopletwitter (racist name), politics, latestagecapitalism, and several others because they are safe spaces. They are agitation echo chambers. I get that sometimes, skilled trolls play devil's advocate to take conversations off the rails, but the banhammer falls far too quickly on the large subs. It really…

Right wing strategists must love these "leftist" totalitarian safe-space bullies, successfully alienating everyone from a more centrist/moderate viewpoint, destroying careers of people who said ignorant things 10 years ago, while Roe V. Wade and Miranda rights get overturned. They'd be happily winning internet points as democracy fails around them.

They're just as responsible for the issues in America as the extreme right.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by abandonliberty »

gaoshan wrote: post #19
unethical_ban wrote: post #12

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Agreed. I'm progressive and try to engage in good faith, but have been banned from a number of subs such as whitepeopletwitter (racist name), politics, latestagecapitalism, and several others because they are safe spaces. They are agitation echo chambers. I get that sometimes, skilled trolls play devil's advocate to take conversations off the rails, but the banhammer falls far too quickly on the large subs. It really…

I was banned from a pro-ccp sub and reported to reddit (and received a warning for this). My comment was literally, "Finding a subreddit like this is like discovering the Upside Down from Stranger Things". That's it. No back and forth, no other comments. Simply those words. For that reddit threatened me (someone active on the site for 14 years, with hundreds of thousands of their "karma", a subreddit moderator and wh…

Thanks, it's a helpful reminder that we're just a pair of eyeballs / free content generators for Reddit.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by tazu »

riolu wrote: post #10
tazu wrote: post #4

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> Blatant transphobia. If we applied your argument to r/conservative, it would be child grooming to become a racist school shooter.

Here's a post from within a week I found in a few minutes[1] with the top-comment being "The pipeline" about a 16 year old (minor). This is child-grooming. And if /r/conservative has a "pipeline", it's child-grooming too. Children shouldn't be encouraged in making major life decisions by internet strangers, period.

> Then you aren't Googling correctly. Once you are an expert in a field you will realize how much reddit gets wrong and the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect.

You must not Google much. Appending "reddit" to Google search queries has been a solid strategy for years. I'm not alone. Check the top comment on this post titled "Google Search Is Dying"[2].

> Your reddit experience is entirely up to what you subscribe to. I imagine your experience is just misogyny.

Your imagination is wrong. My "experience" is /r/all which is no different than MSNBC or CNN, aka US astro-turfed media, which you conveniently avoided replying to. Reddit puts on a strong front as a "global link aggregator" but in reality it's just a heavily censored trash pile that bans anything anti-Saudi, anti-Israel, or anti-child-grooming (anti-US-trends).

An entire subreddit dedicated to castrating young people. How progressive.

[1]: https://reddit.com/r/egg_irl/comments/wm4gll/_/ijx51di/?cont...

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30348204

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by matheusmoreira »

tazu wrote: post #4

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There's a niche subreddit for everything and they often contain valuable information that's hard to find elsewhere. It also used to be full of real posts and opinions from real people but covert advertising is now rampant on the site. I seriously hope that never happens to HN.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by hemogloben »

tazu wrote: post #24
riolu wrote: post #10

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> Blatant transphobia. If we applied your argument to r/conservative, it would be child grooming to become a racist school shooter. Here's a post from within a week I found in a few minutes[1] with the top-comment being "The pipeline" about a 16 year old (minor). This is child-grooming. And if /r/conservative has a "pipeline", it's child-grooming too. Children shouldn't be encouraged in making major life decisions by…

The egg_irl post you picked. Sigh. Picking apart meme content and comments is stupid. But sure, lets do this to support this 'child grooming' nonsense transphobic discussion.

What you're criticizing isn't someone making a major life decision based on feedback from internet strangers. Its a person who has made a major life decision reflecting and joking about the experience in a space assumed to be for trans people trying to deal with (via jokes and memes) the overwhelming hatred they've dealt with.

A) this is clearly a stupid meme post that IN THE MEME itself indicates the person is no longer 16 (in fact if you look at post history they're now at college so > 18).

B) was responded to with a meme in an of itself. The idea of an LGBTQ+ pipeline is well known to LGBTQ+ people. Yes they'll make fun of it in response to a meme post. In ACTUAL discussion, they will earnestly discuss that transitioning isn't for everyone; don't stop because of other people, but also if you're not comfortable or transitioning isn't make you happy, you learned something about yourself (you might not be trans).

But to put a fine point on it: Telling children that they have options for self-expression besides the default gender binary isn't child-grooming. Full stop. And in marginalized communities, you may only have internet strangers to deal with (if your family/friends or local community have no safe spaces). Obviously, for such a large decision you should be working with a therapist (if there's a non-transphobic therapist in your area AND you can afford it/its available) to work through this rather than internet strangers; and that is OFTEN discussed. No one is under the impression that these are small decisions. They're just demanding that they be understood as VALID decisions.

But to boil down a trans-support group (with your 'I call it how I see it'/'won't somebody think of the children' type bullshit) as 'castrating young people' means that you're not as logical / unbiased as you think you are, you clearly DON'T know what you're talking about, AND, as the OP stated, you are transphobic.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by jbm »

riolu wrote: post #16
jbm wrote: post #11

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Putting the rest of your comment aside; > the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect This is correct. The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page; it gives you the lay of the land an an idea of what people believe, which is surprisingly valuable.

> The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page Reddit cannot be compared to wikipedia. It's social media vs an internet encyclopedia. Wikipedia does not allow opinions.

Wikipedia feels like a weird cross of social media, Ted Nelson's Xanadu and good publicity. Opinions will show up; if the opinion show up in another media source, it can be repeated as fact.

Moreover, Wikipedia has its own social grouping dynamics and it's own equivalents of gamification; it just seems 'serious' as the outcome is something that masquerades as factual. (This is an admittedly cruel take on Wikipedia, but there are plenty of comments about the inaccuracy of many Wiki articles that back my opinion)

A good Reddit opinion-based conversation is often useful, much like a good Wikipedia article can be. "How does the soup taste at Pho Daddy" is better answered by a social media post with a dynamic trust list than a list of ingredients.

(We don't really have the trust list, but we do have a list of previous posts that can use on Reddit to see if the person seems similar enough to us)

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by hoseja »

riolu wrote: post #16
jbm wrote: post #11

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Putting the rest of your comment aside; > the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect This is correct. The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page; it gives you the lay of the land an an idea of what people believe, which is surprisingly valuable.

> The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page Reddit cannot be compared to wikipedia. It's social media vs an internet encyclopedia. Wikipedia does not allow opinions.

hahaha you have too much faith in wikipedia. It's full of ideologues and power trippers.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Post by thekingofrome »

gaoshan wrote: post #8

Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

For me it's the groupthink mentality where anything but the status quo is downvoted to oblivion.

Other than that I don't get much out of the site, because most the subs I would enjoy are so small, I can just visit once or twice a year and sort by best of the year, and stop when the quality drops. That was I never even need an account.

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