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Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Putting the rest of your comment aside;

> the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect

This is correct. The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page; it gives you the lay of the land an an idea of what people believe, which is surprisingly valuable.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

Agreed. I'm progressive and try to engage in good faith, but have been banned from a number of subs such as whitepeopletwitter (racist name), politics, latestagecapitalism, and several others because they are safe spaces. They are agitation echo chambers. I get that sometimes, skilled trolls play devil's advocate to take conversations off the rails, but the banhammer falls far too quickly on the large subs. It really is propaganda trash.

Reddit is alright for municipal subs, hobbies, and technical stuff. As well as mindless entertainment, my favorite is idiotsincars and catastrophicfailure. Anything where inside jokes are rampant or memes are allowed is trash (political compass memes, programmer humor). Political subs are good sometimes, only if you find a good highly up oted comment with good sourcing of data. But the bulk is just as simple minded as a fox news comments section.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

The moderator problem is a tough one, because you want them there to remove spam and illegal content, but that's about it. You can't tell them that, because they personally do it to stroke their ego--like a make-believe New York Times editor, swaying the public.

So how do you continue to trick them into doing their $8/hour broom jobs for free, but prevent them from injecting their dumb politics into everything? I don't think you can.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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>without [...] tracking of the ios apps they listed: apollo: has anonymous analytics narwhal: has "Usage Data Advertising Data" under "Data Used to Track You" and "Data Linked to You", has anonymous analytics/usage/crash logs, and uses your device id not exactly escaping much tracking here.

Apollo can have analytics disabled. Any 3rd party client defeats ad engagement tracking. You can curl their API yourself and you have defeated tracking. If the client isn't serving ads, like Apollo and Tweetbot, there isn't any engagement to track. It's limited to what you interact with while logged in. This is how every service works. The analytics for 3rd party clients are purely for the developer to improve their app, they don't care about what you do on it, that information isn't relevant to building a 3rd party client.

Security/Privacy all depends on your threat model and what compromises you are willing to make.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Putting the rest of your comment aside; > the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect This is correct. The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page; it gives you the lay of the land an an idea of what people believe, which is surprisingly valuable.

> The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page

Reddit cannot be compared to wikipedia. It's social media vs an internet encyclopedia. Wikipedia does not allow opinions.

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Gen-pop on Reddit is terrible, but as someone else pointed out, it’s massive and very specialized. I’m in a forum about CPAP machines, mechanical keyboards, my city, coffee, and UX dark patterns. That’s not stuff that works on HN. They are completely different needs / value.

I've been brainstorming a site that uses HN usernames to validate identity and have a comment floor of 500 on HN to participate. It would be like HN but for political and non tech articles.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

The moderator problem is a tough one, because you want them there to remove spam and illegal content, but that's about it. You can't tell them that, because they personally do it to stroke their ego--like a make-believe New York Times editor, swaying the public. So how do you continue to trick them into doing their $8/hour broom jobs for free, but prevent them from injecting their dumb politics into everything? I don…

I moderate a geo sub. I've backed away from it because it is thankless and you see the worst comments all the time. And then comments like this that assign bad faith to any decision you don't like.

I signed up to do it because I didn't want my geo sub to be swamped by spam, trolls and the like, and at the time I was online two or three hours a day.

I do think some subs have terrible mods, and that some larger subs are manipulated and astroturfed by organizations we don't know about by supermods. But give some of the smaller subs some slack.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

Agreed. I'm progressive and try to engage in good faith, but have been banned from a number of subs such as whitepeopletwitter (racist name), politics, latestagecapitalism, and several others because they are safe spaces. They are agitation echo chambers. I get that sometimes, skilled trolls play devil's advocate to take conversations off the rails, but the banhammer falls far too quickly on the large subs. It really…

I was banned from a pro-ccp sub and reported to reddit (and received a warning for this). My comment was literally, "Finding a subreddit like this is like discovering the Upside Down from Stranger Things". That's it. No back and forth, no other comments. Simply those words. For that reddit threatened me (someone active on the site for 14 years, with hundreds of thousands of their "karma", a subreddit moderator and who has "reddit gold") with a ban.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

The moderator problem is a tough one, because you want them there to remove spam and illegal content, but that's about it. You can't tell them that, because they personally do it to stroke their ego--like a make-believe New York Times editor, swaying the public. So how do you continue to trick them into doing their $8/hour broom jobs for free, but prevent them from injecting their dumb politics into everything? I don…

Separate issue: on the internet, it is near impossible to tell good faith discussion from bad when a comment makes any kind of snarky tone or logical fallacy. And there is so much trash on the internet that it can be easy to delete really shitty low effort comments - you may imagine some young troll getting their kicks on stirring things up. But it may be just as likely they're just someone with some bad ideas who can't do rhetoric well.

And so when you delete their comment, you think "yes, cleaned up a troll" while the person who tried to engage in conversation just sees censorship.

Upvotes and locking comments are better than deleting or banning. Again, Slashdot has the best moderation and filter system.

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