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Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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I know gen Z as working harder, especially in school. The bar gets higher every year.

kids left highschool knowing more math in the 70's than college graduates do now

I doubt it. Kids leave elementary school today knowing more programming languages than college graduates did in 2010.

If you want actual data, compare SAT scores or something. I'm willing to bet that by any metric, school was lax back then.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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I'd be first in line for a new car that only has the features of cars from the 1990s.

Plenty of low-mileage 90s cars are on the market. If you’re being sincere, just filter by low mileage and single owner and you’ll find your dream car.

Gimme something with '20's safety and fuel economy, and '90's features otherwise. Or, even better, an electric car without the computer screen on the inside.

I remember 90's cars safety and gas mileage, and I emphatically don't want that.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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My parents are boomers and frequently talk about the 2020s being 70s dejavu. My father entered his 20s in in 1968, and the tail end of his 20s in a deep recession and purchased a modest home in 1976 at a blistering 14% on 30 year fixed. His experience in the Midwest did not match with the assertions in the article.

Rents really are higher though.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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It seems the annual income vs. CPI is the core chart here. Something happened in the decade of 2000-2010 to throw things out of whack. I'm not informed enough to know if that was the result of policy decisions or what, but I'd like to know how wage growth declined so dramatically during this time while prices seemed to maintain its projected linear growth.

I think it is a combination of 1: massive money supply expansion - that mostly benefits the already rich: asset owning classes and banks/institutions that get first dibs on cheap money, and 2: globalization/technology - reducing the value of your typical worker though outsourcing, efficiency, culture, etc. 3: The rich entrenching their power, making it more difficult for everyone else who isn't. Not so much a conspiracy, more of some kind of feedback loop we need to break.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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Plenty of low-mileage 90s cars are on the market. If you’re being sincere, just filter by low mileage and single owner and you’ll find your dream car.

This isn't true in any part of the country that has a winter.

True. California or Arizona (no salt on the roads, low humidity) are the unicorn places for cars without holes.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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I always see the healthcare cost to consumer compared to other countries, but that isn't the true cost to society if the govt is subsidizing the rest. AFAIK the US healthcare is still truly more costly. Monopolies or something, idk.

The US federal government also spends more per capita on healthcare than almost every other nation.

Median after tax income per capita in the U.S. is really high as well, almost at the top.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

#117

It seems the annual income vs. CPI is the core chart here. Something happened in the decade of 2000-2010 to throw things out of whack. I'm not informed enough to know if that was the result of policy decisions or what, but I'd like to know how wage growth declined so dramatically during this time while prices seemed to maintain its projected linear growth.

This chart is complete garbage though, it's graphing inflation adjusted income against inflation... If you want a comparison it's possible to draw a valid conclusion from you need to compare non-inflation adjusted income.

If I'm being charitable, they made a mistake in their analysis, if I'm uncharitable they didn't care about the methodology and went in looking for a way to write a provocative conclusion like "86% less purchasing power". Obviously a lot of energy was spent here drawing up the pretty infographics, probably should have spent more energy getting the basic statistics correct first?

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

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One of the items this article doesn't cover is healthcare spending, which has increased between 2 and 8 times since 1980 (depending on whether you're looking at individual spending or share of GDP). Here's a decent collection of charts: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-spe... It has been shocking to me to see how cheap and effective healthcare can be in other countries, from an emergency visit…

Honestly, glasses there sound like they're only double what they are here which as far as comparing US healthcare costs normally go is practically reasonable. Usually I'm hearing about the same thing costing 10x or more.

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

#119

It seems the annual income vs. CPI is the core chart here. Something happened in the decade of 2000-2010 to throw things out of whack. I'm not informed enough to know if that was the result of policy decisions or what, but I'd like to know how wage growth declined so dramatically during this time while prices seemed to maintain its projected linear growth.

there was a significant recession around 2007

I would say that is a symptom, not a root cause

Re: Gen Z have 86% less purchasing power compared to baby boomers in their twenties

#120

This doesnt pass the sniff test.

Well I think it’s partly true and partly not- which is dangerous because it muddies the water and makes people less likely to believe what they read in the future.
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