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MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by prvit »

scottydelta wrote: post #174
prvit wrote: post #169

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Rossman isn’t exactly trustworthy. Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw3-j_RaX74

Shows the video as private. I cannot watch it.

Rossmann went on a drunken, paranoid rant about how the macbook webcam has secret hardware to spy on him. He took the video down after widespread ridicule.

Original video is mirrored on archive.org https://archive.org/details/Kat.crlouis.rossmann.backup/what...

Not sure if that link goes straight to the right video. It’s the last video of the playlist, titled “what’s up with that 4 gb man”

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Post by legitster »

bardworx wrote: post #235
legitster wrote: post #222

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> And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. It's also worth pointing out that the $500 laptop will probably last a lot longer than the most expensive Macbook. All plastic, they use a lot of older/reliable technology, they don't get used as rough - the most common failure mode is they get too old/slow for the user.

In the last 12 years, I’ve owned 3 MacBooks. Maybe my experience isn’t common, but the units that I’ve bought, have always outlived my windows machines. When averaged out to cost per year, in my experience, Apple is way cheaper.

Part of the issue here is that "Windows machines" could mean anything from an el cheapo Asus to a mil-spec Thinkpad.

I also think that people don't necessarily appreciate how much quality improvements have been made in the last 5-7 years in consumer laptops. Optical drives are gone, everything has an SSD, performance has plateaued and AMD is good again.

Someone walking into Best Buy today and dropping $500 on a laptop will be getting a much more robust machine than when I did the same back in college.

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Post by tverbeure »

legitster wrote: post #222
haunter wrote: post #157

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And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. Even if the screen broke you can probably buy a 3rd party one from Aliexpress for $100. But $800 for a replacement one? I’d rather sell the MBP for parts on eBay and buy a new one if must then pay that much. Like you would get more for that with a broken screen for sure, some people would fix it on their own or use it as a desktop computer. But I don’t have a SV engineer s…

> And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. It's also worth pointing out that the $500 laptop will probably last a lot longer than the most expensive Macbook. All plastic, they use a lot of older/reliable technology, they don't get used as rough - the most common failure mode is they get too old/slow for the user.

I’m anecdotally writing this on a 2012 15” rMacBook Pro that aside from some battery replacements just doesn’t want to die…

It blows all the “premium” work laptops out of the water.

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Post by decremental »

bardworx wrote: post #235
legitster wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. It's also worth pointing out that the $500 laptop will probably last a lot longer than the most expensive Macbook. All plastic, they use a lot of older/reliable technology, they don't get used as rough - the most common failure mode is they get too old/slow for the user.

In the last 12 years, I’ve owned 3 MacBooks. Maybe my experience isn’t common, but the units that I’ve bought, have always outlived my windows machines. When averaged out to cost per year, in my experience, Apple is way cheaper.

I bought an Air in 2014 that lasted me until last year when I bought a new one. The old one still works. It's just too slow for my needs. I still open it up occasionally for some things. Longest running computer I've ever owned by a long shot.

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Post by ok123456 »

comprev wrote: post #258
z9znz wrote: post #179

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> And that’s why most people buy $500 laptops. Most people is a sketchy expression, but I would venture a guess that "most people" buy cheap laptops because they don't really care, they don't know how to adequately judge which ones are worth more, and they also just don't want to spend much on a computer. It's hard to imagine, but "most people" actually care little about computers.

For many people outside of HN demographic $500 is a lot of money for "a computer" A macbook would be like buying a top spec Mercedes when all they need is a no frills base model Ford.

Except the Mercedes is actually repairable.

Re: MacBook Air M1 screen crack for no apparent reason

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Post by rexf »

karamanolev wrote: post #53
lewisl9029 wrote: post #2

A friend just had this happen to their M1 Air under warranty and Apple quoted him $400 for the repair claiming it was "accidental" damage, even though he didn't do anything to it, like the 50 pages of people who replied in the thread. Wanted to make a quick PSA against purchasing one of these to save a few hundred bucks vs the M2 Air which hopefully won't have this problem, and possibly put some pressure on Apple to…

Given the number of models with the butterfly keyboards which were somewhat similar (model-wide issues, not acknowledged by Apple, blamed on the user), what makes you think M2 Air is going to fix any potential screen issues?

This. Hoping it's fixed on the latest version is wishful thinking.

Apple tends to downplay and/or ignore issues. Sometimes they don't have to do anything and other times, they offer a repair program.

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Post by legitster »

vonseel wrote: post #257
legitster wrote: post #200

I still don't understand the appeal of aluminum/glass construction. I couldn't think of a worse set of materials to make a laptop out of. For comparison, nearly every other ultrabook manufacturer has moved onto magnesium or carbon fiber for chassis construction. Both materials are much physically stronger, lighter, and (most importantly, imho) offer more intrinsic shock protection. I know people enjoy the "luxury" lo…

There's an ongoing joke in the military, MIL-SPEC just means it's a piece of crap that's going to break pretty soon. From an engineering point of view, I'd like to believe that using all MIL-SPEC components which are rated to last longer and in harsher environments would amount to a more reliable product. But maybe a product is more than the sum of its parts, and it's possible a company can build a more reliable prod…

Sure. But I think there is a fundamental difference in philosophy when Thinkpad or MSI have web pages bragging about how well their laptops handle moisture ingress and Apple just has a warranty statement.

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Post by londons_explore »

legitster wrote: post #200

I still don't understand the appeal of aluminum/glass construction. I couldn't think of a worse set of materials to make a laptop out of. For comparison, nearly every other ultrabook manufacturer has moved onto magnesium or carbon fiber for chassis construction. Both materials are much physically stronger, lighter, and (most importantly, imho) offer more intrinsic shock protection. I know people enjoy the "luxury" lo…

I don't think the aluminium ever touches the glass...

They always make sure there is a layer of plastic or glue a few hundred micrometers thick to absorb any stresses from thermal variations or falls.

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Post by [deleted] »

runjake wrote: post #183
z9znz wrote: post #154

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> extreme outlier Contrary to popular myth, not all of us live and work in a basement. Myself and many people I know, my non-technical girlfriend included, use our laptops all around the country and in multiple other countries. I do agree about upgradeable and repairable, which is why the Framework laptop is getting pretty attractive. But there's still nothing that compares in performance and portability to my M1 Air…

Right, that's why they said "outlier". Most people aren't going all around the country and multiple other countries. Most people sit at home on a computer, and sit at work on another computer. Like you, I am also an outlier, using my MacbBok all over Hades.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

auggierose wrote: post #210
josephcsible wrote: post #203

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That feels like saying "And that's why you pay the Mafia their protection money." These screens are breaking because they're defective, which is what the warranty is supposed to cover. Why should you have to pay Apple more money for them to do what they're already supposed to do?

You are still free to sue them if it is actually a faulty product. But maybe you want to get a quick repair done in the mean time without shelling out $800?

> You are still free to sue them

Indeed you are free to sue a wide variety of criminals, but ususally we don't refer to them with reverence and respect

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