No exclusives seals the deal for me. I already have a gaming PC so I'm not missing out on anything by not buying the new Xbox.
Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
11–20 of 108 posts
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#12Consoles seem like a dumb idea to me. They were great when split screen was the main form of multiplayer. Now multiplayer has largely moved online. Finding local co-op / competitive games is kind of hard, and of the few that still come out, few of them are console specific. If you're colocated with your friends, playing together may not be possible unless you want to bring along another console and hook it up to anot…
I turn on my console and it plays games. I'm not messing around with maintaining yet another PC and all those headaches.
Why can't you turn on your pc and play games?
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#13The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…
I stuck to XB1 for backwards compatibility and Gears of War, but on the other hand I failed to see an obvious advantage to the PS4. What's the "killer app" of the PS4? Apart from exclusives, both seem similar. Both seem to be considerably worse as a media box compared to the good old 360 with it's magnificent built-in DLNA compatibility and CD-ripping.
PS4 killer app was option to buy bare bones ps4 + gamepad package vs Xbone taking forever to enter some european markets and insisting for so long that I asolutely need to pay much more because only bundle on market is one with Kinect I have zero interest of using.
It also had very strob library of exclusives. If somebody told me I’ll spend 400h in front of TV playing souls game I would’ve laughted them off, but Bloodborne did it. They also had other strong titles like Uncharted, Horizon, Last of Us.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#14Consoles seem like a dumb idea to me. They were great when split screen was the main form of multiplayer. Now multiplayer has largely moved online. Finding local co-op / competitive games is kind of hard, and of the few that still come out, few of them are console specific. If you're colocated with your friends, playing together may not be possible unless you want to bring along another console and hook it up to anot…
This is why I like Nintendo's hardware – it tends to be different, in a creative and interesting way, rather than just being "cheaper than a gaming PC in upfront cost but more rent-seeking and DRM'd down to the nines". The 3DS – love it or loathe it – was different. The Wii, awfully-named and somewhat unfortunately DOA Wii-U, and the Switch were generationally different changed the direction (IMO) of the whole industry. The charm of a console lies in the works that can be created with it that cannot easily be created on the diaspora of PCs out in the wild.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#15The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…
I stuck to XB1 for backwards compatibility and Gears of War, but on the other hand I failed to see an obvious advantage to the PS4. What's the "killer app" of the PS4? Apart from exclusives, both seem similar. Both seem to be considerably worse as a media box compared to the good old 360 with it's magnificent built-in DLNA compatibility and CD-ripping.
PS4 is a gaming device with similar hardware, the "killer app" is going to be a game.
It seemed to me that Sony invested a lot more than Microsoft in making games during the PS4 era. Microsoft seemed to think Gears of War and Halo were "good enough" while Sony was producing a lot more exclusives. Microsoft must have realized they were getting slaughtered due to lack of games since they started buying gaming studios towards the end of this era.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#16This mostly tracks with my experience. We have a PS4 and XB1. Except for a few exclusive titles (ie Cuphead) the XB1 just sat on our shelf collecting dust. The experience between the 2 just didn't seem compelling enough to play on the XB1 that often.
The 2 consoles are probably my last. I'm all in on XGPU. It finally gave me a reason to plug the XB1 in again. Now I can play current gen games on a 7yo XB1. And on my Macbook. And hopefully on my iPhone. I'm no longer tied to a TV at home. I also don't need to purchase more gaming hardware.
If Microsoft can leverage their cloud products even more they may lose the console war and win online and cloud gaming.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I turn on my console and it plays games. I'm not messing around with maintaining yet another PC and all those headaches.
Why can't you turn on your pc and play games?
I think there was a big difference between the care and feeding of a Windows system and a console. Not that I really use a Windows machine at this point, but my sense is that there's not a big gap these days.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#18The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…
I stuck to XB1 for backwards compatibility and Gears of War, but on the other hand I failed to see an obvious advantage to the PS4. What's the "killer app" of the PS4? Apart from exclusives, both seem similar. Both seem to be considerably worse as a media box compared to the good old 360 with it's magnificent built-in DLNA compatibility and CD-ripping.
The killer app was definitely the exclusives, no amount of features would make up for missing out on playing a lot of the best games in that time period.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I turn on my console and it plays games. I'm not messing around with maintaining yet another PC and all those headaches.
Why can't you turn on your pc and play games?
Driver updates. OS updates. Driver update broke HDMI. OS update broke my controller config. Steam update broke my controller config. Bluetooth controller randomly unpairs every other week. Game picks the wrong sound device so now it's coming out of the TV instead of my wireless headphones. Some game doesn't work with gamepad so I guess I need a wireless kb/m now, too. Oop game lost focus because of a Chrome update dialog, guess I need to alt-tab back into it, shit the keyboard batteries are dead...
PC gaming sucks.
Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I turn on my console and it plays games. I'm not messing around with maintaining yet another PC and all those headaches.
Why can't you turn on your pc and play games?
For me it's because then I have to go buy and assemble a PC + another monitor and buy another desk and a set of peripherals. Whereas an Xbox Series X I just plug in to my TV and it works great, especially with GamePass, and it's way cheaper.