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Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4

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The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard.

As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe.

With the upcoming streaming revolution all you really needed was a Netflix app. Not the dozens of TV features made for NA based users. None of these features tied customers in and as soon as PS4 released people just jumped ship. Games rarely worked throughout generations anyway.

So in summary: Xbox Live won over vast numbers of gamers to the new multiplayer console era, but in my geographic location people just jumped back to Playstation because PS Online gained feature parity.

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The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…

People think backwards compatibility helps keep people on your platform - but it’s often the opposite. You have an Xbox and the next time you buy a PlayStation which you can use to play the games you missed, or vice versa.

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The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…

I stuck to XB1 for backwards compatibility and Gears of War, but on the other hand I failed to see an obvious advantage to the PS4.

What's the "killer app" of the PS4? Apart from exclusives, both seem similar. Both seem to be considerably worse as a media box compared to the good old 360 with it's magnificent built-in DLNA compatibility and CD-ripping.

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Consoles seem like a dumb idea to me. They were great when split screen was the main form of multiplayer. Now multiplayer has largely moved online. Finding local co-op / competitive games is kind of hard, and of the few that still come out, few of them are console specific. If you're colocated with your friends, playing together may not be possible unless you want to bring along another console and hook it up to another tv. The switch being an outlier on multiple points here. Laptops are fine enough to bring along though and laptops are capable of playing pretty much everything.

Paying for the ability to play online sucks.

Controllers are now largely PC compatible.

Lots of games are moving off physical media.

Prices tend to be better for PC games.

Media is transferable to a new PC.

Modding.

Updates are quicker.

People like to talk about how consoles are simpler but... I think that's stupid. People got caught up in dumb PC master race memes about hardware nerds getting the absolute best graphics performance possible and missed the fact that its not that hard to make a competent pc that will do just fine for a very long time for comparable prices to a console. And, it's a computer!

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The generational gap is insane. In Finland a vast majority in the PS3/360 days were in the green team. The next generation? It was rare to see anyone with an Xbox One. The pendulum swang hard. As a 360 user those days I saw some of the writing on the wall. Xbox E3 events focused hard on American features which turned the Xbox to a smart TV box. Aside from games we gained nothing for most of Europe. With the upcoming…

We didn't want those features in NA, either. It was a ton of really bad direction from the top. Execs weren't really sure why they were in the gaming business at all[1], so Matrick tried to branch the division out into other areas: a focus on OTA TV (no one under 40 who games watches OTA TV); bundling Kinect; leaping into the locked in digital-sales-only model way too early. It was really demoralizing for the Xbox team and definitely lost them the generation. They seem to have recovered for the Series generation.

[1] https://www.gamespot.com/articles/phil-spencer-is-exactly-wh...

Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4

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Consoles seem like a dumb idea to me. They were great when split screen was the main form of multiplayer. Now multiplayer has largely moved online. Finding local co-op / competitive games is kind of hard, and of the few that still come out, few of them are console specific. If you're colocated with your friends, playing together may not be possible unless you want to bring along another console and hook it up to anot…

I turn on my console and it plays games. I'm not messing around with maintaining yet another PC and all those headaches.

Re: Microsoft finally admits Xbox One sales were less than half of the PS4

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Consoles seem like a dumb idea to me. They were great when split screen was the main form of multiplayer. Now multiplayer has largely moved online. Finding local co-op / competitive games is kind of hard, and of the few that still come out, few of them are console specific. If you're colocated with your friends, playing together may not be possible unless you want to bring along another console and hook it up to anot…

That was true pre this current generation of consoles. It was damned hard to get a PC comparable to a PS5 or Xbox SX for the past 2-3 years, because the hardware in those consoles is very capable and graphics cards were unobtainium at MSRP.

Even now, I think getting PC hardware for the same retail costs as the consoles would be tough.

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