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Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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How about USA-made Starrett combination squares? Is there any better, anywhere in the world? https://starrett.com/category/111001

I have no idea. Are combination squares popular outside of the US? :)

That's like asking if accurate right angles are popular vs necessary in various trades :)

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This sounds like perfectly efficient capitalism. Is it really not this way in other countries?

No, perfect capitalism would include having perfect knowledge of the product, which is exactly the opposite of this situation.

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We have to be careful to distinguish between capitalism as an ideal, and as a description of what happens in the real world. (The same applies to socialism or any other -ism.) Otherwise we will just engage in 'No True Scotsman' fallacies.

True, but fraud is not at all specific to capitalism in practice or theory.

You'd probably agree that maximizing profit is a corner stone of capitalism. In practice this principle is way above staying within the bounds of morals or laws.

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I have no idea. Are combination squares popular outside of the US? :)

That's like asking if accurate right angles are popular vs necessary in various trades :)

I wasn't sure what a combination square was so I checked Wikipedia and they only had entries in English, Dutch and Spanish, so I assumed they were some kind of special case of right angle not very popular over here.

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I didn’t say they opposed free college. I said the folks you would expect to support free college (those left of center) have been co-opted by a version of “anti-racism” that treats acknowledging civilizational competition with China as “racist.” There’s lots of people who support free college(or at least claim to)—but not as a means to rebuild the American industrial base and get jobs back from China. They support f…

What's the point of this apparent straw man? The reason the US can't / doesn't / shouldn't (not sure which, but presume you're suggesting at least one of those otherwise your comment's irrelevant) provide free college is because too many people who support they policy also support continued collaboration with China? I don't see how that's relavent even if we set aside nuances and just agree for the sake of this topic…

> So it's the fault of the left wing for not being left wing enough?

It’s the fault of the left wing for abandoning its traditional working class base to advance the interests of its elite donor class, which increasingly benefits from globalism.

Societies have groups with conflicting interests, and political parties represent those groups. Right wing groups will exist, and should exist, to represent the interests of businesses and upper classes. That’s not a problem. It’s a problem when left wing groups are co-opted by ideologies that causes them to turn on the working class people they are supposed to represent.

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True, but fraud is not at all specific to capitalism in practice or theory.

You'd probably agree that maximizing profit is a corner stone of capitalism. In practice this principle is way above staying within the bounds of morals or laws.

That seems like a fully generalised critique for almost all -isms.

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American manufacturing looks like low-wage workers making $12 an hour (a few years ago) making windshields. A real American manufacturing renaissance would be German, with high skilled trained professionals designing, building, and operating advanced machines to create complex products. Basically what the Chinese are continually getting better at. There is no hope. America can’t even agree on giving community college…

I don't know if that's a fair assessment, really. While it's not economically viable to pay American wages to put drills together, we do make things like jet engines and CNC machines here. The complexity has to be high enough to justify the high cost of labor. If you can build something from raw materials in your garage over the weekend, then it's probably not worth paying someone's mortgage, health insurance, and 40…

Wouldn't it be cool if we could buy kits from Milwaukee and assemble them ourselves?

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It's the entire front panel . You might as well take a wire wheel to it and break out the Rustoleum. https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-10-in-Contractor-Table-Sa...

That is.. bright!

It is. Great saw, though, if you can make your peace with orange and can't get the Delta flavor (which goes on sale more often, I think).

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Craftsman was bought by Black & Decker from Sears in 2017, but Sears kept a limited license to produce their own products under that brand name which it sells in their stores (I believe TTI is the actual manufacturer of Sears Craftsman power tools). Craftsman = "V20" Sears Craftsman = "20V" Different incompatible brands, it's a bit deceptive. https://toolguyd.com/craftsman-v20-sears-craftsman-20v-compa...

I can only find the V20 stuff on sears.com, the same stuff Lowe's sells. Note that article is four years old and there's a possibility related lawsuit since then. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/07/sears-is-sued-over-craftsman...

It might be old stock they're clearing, but you can still find V20 at Sears locations around me.

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DeWalt and Milwuakee are owned by the same parent company.

You've got them mixed up. DeWalt is Stanley Black & Decker, which also makes modern, non-Sears Craftsman tools, along with a bunch of others--Bostitch nailers, Irwin, whatever's left of the Porter-Cable line, and upscale stuff like MAC (uses DeWalt batteries, as it happens) or Proto. Milwaukee is TTI, which owns Home Depot's exclusive Ryobi and Ridgid brands, along with Empire (measuring devices), Hart (Ryobi but for…

That really make me distrust those companies.

If you build something good, make it under your name and only your name.

Branding/rebranding/renaming smell like marketing gimmick and mean you are focused more on marketing trick than engineering.

They could have a Pro/home line of product for different segments and still keep honoring the brand.

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