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Does the singular You bother you? Dost thou pine for Thou?
I'm not sure what relevance that has to my dislike of unnecessarily gender specific pronouns.
I misunderstood the antecedent to your "this"
“But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
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Re: “But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
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I'm so glad I've never had a client like that here in Australia. Everyone seems to be OK with the idea of running multiple browsers. We do have clients that use IE6 but we've always managed to convince them to install Chrome or Firefox on their desktops so they can use our software. Some users end up using multiple browsers but that's ok. I guess we're fortunate in the sense that our software is important enough and…
Except certain Australian Federal departments with 70,000+ staff who are stuck on IE6 because their IT boffins only want to use 'secure' web browsers and IT policy doesn't give them any choice in the tools they use.
Can't speak for the internals of that organisation, but the main reason I've come across for corporates still being on IE6 is the very real cost of migrating.
Many legacy web applications were built to work on IE6, and changing to a more modern browser can subtly, or completely in some cases, break these critical apps. It may be a pain for users when their favourite social media site looks rubbish or doesn't even run in IE6, but it's nothing compared to the finance department not being able to run their end of year reports because one screen in their GL system doesn't render properly in Firefox.
And it costs money firstly to test every single function of every single app that your business uses, and secondly to fix those places where it breaks (especially when it's an external vendor's application). That time and money can often be better spent doing one of the thousand other things that are making demands on the IT budget. Most companies are slowly making this transition, but unfortunately it's not just a case of saying "This browser it better/more secure than that one. Let's upgrade".
Re: “But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
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If we had genderless pronouns we wouldn't have to care about details like that which don't materially affect the article or its criticisms. Having said that, fields with a more even gender ratio have had to deal with this for a while - what do they do?
I tend to just be lazy and put "the OP" instead of he/she/it, although you could nitpick me on that as well since the author of an article posted to HN is often not the "original poster" in question.
Re: “But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
#114well those clients, my dear, can go FUCK themselves.
money is not that important to me.
(so what, I am passionate about this. IE6 is like installing a trojan on your computer.)
btw. why is Hacker News so badly slow?
Re: “But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
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I haven't had a request for IE6 support in years, but if I got one I would say something like: "No, I will not do IE6 support for you. You've trusted me to solve your problem in the best and most efficient way, and supporting IE6 would be a waste of your money (and my time)."
The problem is this is piss poor client relations. When you make a declaration like this you seem arrogant. Effectively you are saying that your knowledge of web development trumps any concerns they may have to the point that you don't even need to know about it. Instead you have to take the time to understand why they are requesting it and then communicate the tradeoffs to them at the appropriate technical level for…
I'm usually less brash and assertive when I'm not making inebriated offhand comments on the internet. Honesty and confidence can go a long way in building trust if backed with demonstrated knowledge, though.
In my experience, clients are usually pretty good at providing rationale for their requests, so my implied scenario is a bit of hyperbole. Often when the topic of legacy browsers comes up, it's because the client has been in the process of having a website made before, and is relieved to discover that the technology has moved forward since then.