Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

Post by Apocryphon » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:55 PM UTC

aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #15

Xeoncross wrote: post #3

I still remember my horror when I saw the pain of something as simple as string concatenation in Objective-C. The community literally has to write special micros to make joining a string palatable [1]. I salute the brave souls who made OSX/iOS apps before Swift. NSString *myString = @"Hello"; NSString *second = [myString stringByAppendingString:@" World"]; [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/510269/shortcuts-in-…

Actually, I'm glad its a method with a long-ish name. Operator-overloaded string concatenation makes something that can ruin your performance look innocent. Also, I've never heard of any serious iOS/macOS dev complaining about this.

Post by Xeoncross » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:00 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #14

Xeoncross wrote: post #3

I still remember my horror when I saw the pain of something as simple as string concatenation in Objective-C. The community literally has to write special micros to make joining a string palatable [1]. I salute the brave souls who made OSX/iOS apps before Swift. NSString *myString = @"Hello"; NSString *second = [myString stringByAppendingString:@" World"]; [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/510269/shortcuts-in-…

NSString *foo = [@"foo" stringByAppendingString:@"bar"]; It's not that bad.

  "foo" + "bar"

Post by yellowapple » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:03 PM UTC

EddySchauHai wrote: post #13

mpweiher wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might try reading further, because the claim is actually well-supported. Just because we call something "general purpose" doesn't mean it actually is.

If you can build Objective-S in a language then isn't the language that contains the set of Objective-S and other languages in theory more general purpose? I'm not sure I get the definition.

Post by layer8 » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:21 PM UTC

mpweiher wrote: post #10

brtknr wrote: post #7

My two pence: It’s not a very sexy name for a language compared to the competition.

Yep. Still working on it. Suggestions?

Post by teakettle42 » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:22 PM UTC

ardit33 wrote: post #11

Xeoncross wrote: post #3

I still remember my horror when I saw the pain of something as simple as string concatenation in Objective-C. The community literally has to write special micros to make joining a string palatable [1]. I salute the brave souls who made OSX/iOS apps before Swift. NSString *myString = @"Hello"; NSString *second = [myString stringByAppendingString:@" World"]; [1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/510269/shortcuts-in-…

Agreed. But once you get some macros (or categories) then Objective-C becomes a great language. Is both elegant and very powerful as it is has the perfect balance between a static and a dynamic language. Swift on the other had is a language where wonks decided to throw every silly feature they thought off to the point that is becoming more complex than even Scala. I wished Swift was just a modernized Objective-C with…