Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by MaysonL » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 9:45 PM UTC

Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C
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Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by mpweiher » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 9:55 PM UTC

Oh. Sorry, the website is currently not in a very good state. Feel free to ask any questions here.

Note: very pleased that the box serving the site is pretty consistently at less than 1% CPU during the HN hug of death.

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by Xeoncross » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 9:58 PM UTC

I still remember my horror when I saw the pain of something as simple as string concatenation in Objective-C. The community literally has to write special micros to make joining a string palatable [1]. I salute the brave souls who made OSX/iOS apps before Swift.

  NSString *myString = @"Hello";
  NSString *second = [myString stringByAppendingString:@" World"];

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/510269/shortcuts-in-obje...

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by zapzupnz » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:07 PM UTC

mpweiher wrote: post #2

Oh. Sorry, the website is currently not in a very good state. Feel free to ask any questions here. Note: very pleased that the box serving the site is pretty consistently at less than 1% CPU during the HN hug of death.

I’m interested in this. What’s the developer experience like? Is there an LSP server to be able to use with VSCode?

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by MaysonL » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:10 PM UTC

zapzupnz wrote: post #4

mpweiher wrote: post #2

Oh. Sorry, the website is currently not in a very good state. Feel free to ask any questions here. Note: very pleased that the box serving the site is pretty consistently at less than 1% CPU during the HN hug of death.

I’m interested in this. What’s the developer experience like? Is there an LSP server to be able to use with VSCode?

Check out this blog post: https://blog.metaobject.com/2022/08/native-gui-distributed-s...

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by munchler » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:11 PM UTC

> By allowing general architectures, Objective-S is the first general purpose programming language.

Really? I stopped reading at this spot, since this claim is so ridiculous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_programming_la...

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by brtknr » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:12 PM UTC

My two pence: It’s not a very sexy name for a language compared to the competition.

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by lagrange77 » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:21 PM UTC

found a typo

> [...]we know some good architectural styles for software, those architectural are difficult to use, because they clash[...]

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by mpweiher » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:28 PM UTC

munchler wrote: post #6

> By allowing general architectures, Objective-S is the first general purpose programming language. Really? I stopped reading at this spot, since this claim is so ridiculous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_programming_la...

You might try reading further, because the claim is actually well-supported.

Just because we call something "general purpose" doesn't mean it actually is.

Re: Objective-S: architecture-oriented language based on Smalltalk and Objective-C

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Post by mpweiher » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 10:29 PM UTC

brtknr wrote: post #7

My two pence: It’s not a very sexy name for a language compared to the competition.

Yep. Still working on it.

Suggestions?