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I have never experienced blurry photos or videos as this alleges. I hate read receipts and typing bubbles anyway. I do agree that Apples group chats are highly annoying. Personally, I think it is Androids text platform that is bloated and inferior.
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This is a great point which I haven't heard before in this age-old debate. But until Apple's dominance starts to wane, there's no chance in hell they will provide iMessage for other platforms unless forced by regulation. If push comes to shove, they can implement heuristics which run texts from non-Apple devices through a harder spam filter. Spam isn't non-existent on the iMessage network, and there already seems to…
Well Apple is going to be forced anyway, the EU's Digital Markets Act will be enforced soon. And fines are up to 20% of global revenue .
It's a messenger but it's based on phone numbers AFAIK--unlike something like WhatsApp.
Apple connect to our messaging platform voice, i mean messages i mean allo i mean duo i mean hangouts i mean...
I can't really blame Apple for not being interested in adopting a "standard" that's mostly Google pretending to be a standard.
I would agree more if the RCS standard wasn’t also hot garbage… I would encourage anyone who is curious to read more about it. It’s taken so long to gain traction that it has also become somewhat legacy. Also, it still requires a carrier sponsored phone plan? How is this “modern” in comparison to say every other carrier agnostic messaging app in existence? Also this: https://twitter.com/RonAmadeo/status/1480679515298…
It may not be perfect but it is better than what Apple is doing now.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
Wow. I can't really come up with anything creative to blame Google for this one. Whatever you want to say about Google's messaging mess and RCS - Apple seems to go out of their way to make it inconvenient to text with Android users.
Also it doesn't sound like Google's asking Apple to give up iMessage - just that they use RCS instead of SMS/MMS to talk to Android users. Not an unreasonable ask given RCS is likely to be a widely adopted standard and an non-trivial improvement over SMS.
Edit: Color aside, the read receipts, MMS quality, Wifi send etc all seem worth fixing with RCS.
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Everyone in the US (if there is at least one android user in the chat)
I have dozens of group chats with iPhone, Android, and even PC users. We never encounter any of the limitations of SMS, for the same reason we can drive across the country and don’t have to constantly scan for new radio channels. It’s just not a technology that we use. SMS is the old, WhatsApp/Telegram/Messenger/Signal/Discord/etc is the new.
No thanks, I'll stick to SMS.
I'm all for standards, but this is mainly sour grapes by Google. If they hadn't shot themselves in the foot dozens of times with messaging they could've dominated using the head start they had with Google Talk. Google should put all messages from iPhone users in comic sans.
From what I’m seeing RCS just isn’t a true solution. Apple and Google should come together to create a standard outside of the carriers.
Absolutely agree. Carriers have no rightful place in the discussion, they’re dumb data pipes and shouldn’t be able to nickel and dime customers on messaging quotas and features, as RCS is designed to allow.
If Apple and Google teams up without carriers, they still don't have access to the full, true phone number database that carriers maintain.