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Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by googlryas »

qqtt wrote: post #45
hinkley wrote: post #22

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Lead posisoning was a disease the white man brought to the entire world. Thomas J. Midgley, the inventor, perpetrator and chief apologist for leaded gasoline, also brought the world CFCs. Veritasium did a bit on him and was not kind. In fact he implied Midgley may have been the worst mass murderer in human history. The other day I had a chilling thought, after a day with both gardening and another conversation with m…

Friendly reminder that leaded gasoline is still used today in airports all over the USA. If you live near an airport you are still affected by this in 2022.

Can you attempt to quantify the effect? Because from my understanding it is basically nothing.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by googlryas »

wszfahwbwbaha wrote: post #69
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #50

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While leaded gas is technically still sold your comment is misleading to the point where it's basically just a lie. 100LL (aka avgas) has nowhere near the lead concentration that automotive fuels use, is used in much lower volume and with much less proximity to people than leaded automotive fuel. If you are concerned about lead exposure test for lead in and around where you live and what you consume. That is the prim…

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The low effort isn't in the concern, but just in literally the amount of effort OP put into their comment. They could at least attempt to quantify the effect they believe this has on people living near airports.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by hnuser847 »

starwind wrote: post #27
fxtentacle wrote: post #12

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Fully agree. For some inventions, such as LSD-trips for your lunch break, I truly wonder how people can be so f-ed up that they consider that a good idea. But then again, I see so many people with depressing faces every day, it's hard to deny that we have widespread psychological sanity issues in our society. BTW, it's not just Inuit having high suicide rates: "Suicide among teens and young adults reaches highest lev…

> I see so many people with depressing faces every day, it's hard to deny that we have widespread psychological sanity issues in our society. No society in history has ever had so much abundance as the West today. We've really moved up Maslows hierarchy beyond survival and safety towards needing meaning in our lives (more than what comes with doing the labor you need to survive). I wonder if there's just not enough m…

Maybe abundance itself makes us depressed. In the modern world you have to go way out of your way to experience any sense of sense of danger, adventure, chaos, or self-reliance. Sitting behind a screen while shoving food in your mouth might keep you alive but it kills the soul.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by framebit »

oliveshell wrote: post #29
hinkley wrote: post #22

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Lead posisoning was a disease the white man brought to the entire world. Thomas J. Midgley, the inventor, perpetrator and chief apologist for leaded gasoline, also brought the world CFCs. Veritasium did a bit on him and was not kind. In fact he implied Midgley may have been the worst mass murderer in human history. The other day I had a chilling thought, after a day with both gardening and another conversation with m…

I haven’t heard of this being looked into specifically, but IMO there could certainly be a plausible connection. Adults exposed to lead as children have less brain volume in the prefrontal cortex and several other areas. It’s definitely not impossible that this could kickstart maladaptive cognitive patterns such as narcissism. I found the following, from a WHO page about lead poisoning [1], particularly interesting:…

The connection of lead poisoning and narcissism does seem plausible.

It's also worth noting that, broadly speaking, the parents of Boomers (depending on their age) went through 1 or 2 world wars, the great depression, the spanish flu, etc. and probably didn't come out unscathed. The trauma of the parents is bound to have ripple effects on the mental health of the kids.

There's more than a few stories of dads who went off to war and came back silent, drinking, and traumatized.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by googlryas »

soperj wrote: post #2

> According to the report, a "police spokeswoman acknowledged that the section on starlight tours had been deleted using a computer within the department, but said investigators were unable to pinpoint who did it." Can't even solve a case within their own dept, what's the hope for anyone else?

I don't think that is a criminal matter.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by yorwba »

adventured wrote: post #47
yorwba wrote: post #32

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> And at this point Germany has seen net zero per capita economic expansion for coming up on 30 years. What exactly do you mean by "net zero per capita economic expansion"? According to the World Bank https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locat... , German GDP per capita was $38,294 in 1991 (adjusting for purchasing power and inflation) and $52,931 in 2021, which looks more like 38% expansion to me.

Germany GDP per capita 1992: $26,000 Germany GDP per capita 2022 (IMF estimate): $51,000 BLS inflation adjustment calculator: $26,000 in 1992 = $55,000 in 2022. Germany has seen a net per capita contraction over 30 years. Germany's GDP per capita was not $38,000 in 1991. It was $46,000 in 2019 for reference. That 1991 $38k figure is drastically higher than the US figure was at the time. Their GDP per capita hasn't be…

It seems like the reason your results differ from the World Bank is that you're taking German GDP per capita figures translated into dollars according to the exchange rate at the time without adjusting for purchasing power, and then you use US consumer inflation to compare them across time.

Whereas the World Bank appears to derive its figures by applying the German inflation rate (which was lower for most of the 30-year period) to make GDP per capita comparable across time, and then translates the values into US dollars while compensating for purchasing power differences.

If you earn income in Germany but spend it in the US, the former scenario would be quite relevant, but under normal conditions I think the World Bank's calculation is more useful.

It's interesting though that the two ways to compare the value of money over time and space lead to such different results.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by rexreed »

hinkley wrote: post #70
Demonsult wrote: post #64

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Lead was used in Egyptian pottery many thousands of years ago.

And to sweeten wine, which survived into the Middle Ages as people soaking lumps in cheap wine to improve the flavor. There’s a plausible theory that tomatoes were mistaken for poisonous due to lead dinner plates of that era. With the possible exception of the counterfeit wine example, that’s all very ethically different from pumping it into the air.

Specifically, it's Lead Acetate vs a lump of metal lead.

"Lead acetate, also known as sugar of lead, is a salt that (ironically) has a sweet flavor—a fairly unusual quality in poisons, which are more likely to taste bitter, signaling to the taster that they are unsafe for consumption. The ancient Romans used the compound—which they called sapa—to sweeten wine"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/sugar-of-lead-a-...

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Post by hammock »

qqtt wrote: post #45
hinkley wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lead posisoning was a disease the white man brought to the entire world. Thomas J. Midgley, the inventor, perpetrator and chief apologist for leaded gasoline, also brought the world CFCs. Veritasium did a bit on him and was not kind. In fact he implied Midgley may have been the worst mass murderer in human history. The other day I had a chilling thought, after a day with both gardening and another conversation with m…

Friendly reminder that leaded gasoline is still used today in airports all over the USA. If you live near an airport you are still affected by this in 2022.

There was no widespread soil remediation so if you live near any road at all (that would be everyone) you are still affected by this. No need to be near an airport
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