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How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by pdpi »

zionic wrote: post #35
stewbrew wrote: post #22

What I don't like about framework notebooks is that they seem to be mostly interested in speed, which is why they seemed to choose these P-series CPUs. With a notebook, I'm much more interested in energy consumption (how long can I work off grid), emissions like fan noise and the like. Why no U-series CPUs?

Well then you are minority. I want a portable desktop, speed I can bring with me without lugging my 35lb liquid cooler setup with its 4x140mm radiator. I want something compact and sexy but insanely fast when I “dock” it

The success of the thin-and-light segment, and the MacBook Air in particular, suggests that OP is very much in the majority.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by ggm »

freedomben wrote: post #30
nominusllc wrote: post #2

I went from saying, "if only they had an AMD" to getting a different machine in ARM and now im saying "if only they had ARM". I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before. A framework laptop with some type of ARM or ARM-like cpu could do a lot with the space savings on cooling.

I have absolutely no data or information to back this up, but I predict a RISC-V based Framework within the next 5 years. And I'll be one of the first customers to buy one.

First gen unlikely to be low(er) power though surely? I can see this emerging, but power would have to lie in the space of "premature optimisation" risks. For intel, AMD & ARM they're all multiple generations in, have understood their exposure of risk to parasitic effects in the VLSI of choice, have fab at viable defect rate. RISC-V is more played with in FPGA or emulation than otherwise. (happy to be corrected, but I think this remains true)

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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nwah1 wrote: post #11
jjtheblunt wrote: post #7

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unfortunately? as in no competition to drive progress?

Not too many companies have a market cap over a trillion dollars, and if you don't then you can forget about competing on the upcoming process nodes that will require enormous capital. Samsung's internal processor division seems to be sucking. Google is trying it half-heartedly like they do with nearly everything. Nvidia and AMD haven't really tried to compete for the desktop ARM market, and Intel certainly hasn't. Q…

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Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by freedomben »

selectodude wrote: post #36
freedomben wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely no data or information to back this up, but I predict a RISC-V based Framework within the next 5 years. And I'll be one of the first customers to buy one.

Why wait? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/first-risc-v-laptop-...

That's super exciting, but I'm not familiar with Xcalibyte. are they a good and reputable maker?

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by geophertz »

zingplex wrote: post #39
procodr wrote: post #8

For "Linux kernel compilation speed" they have compared a 16 GB model with 64 GB model for achieving 102.60% improvement! It's so funny =)

Would increasing the RAM really make that big a difference in terms of kernel compilation time? It feels to me that 16GB should be plenty for any sort of caching that will speed things up.

The only way to know would have been to compare the models :)

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

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Post by jacknews »

The coolest thing isn't just the cpu upgrade, but that the whole mainboard is something like a standard. Other laptops have weird shaped boards just for that one model.

If this 'standard' takes off it could start an entire ecosystem of modular hardware. That's exciting. I'm hoping for a 'Framework surface', a 'Framework tv', a 'Framework 400', etc.

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