How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core? • Hacker News Board

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#31

Post by nrp » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:12 AM UTC

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #25

Surely the real story here is that Framework have released a CPU upgrade for a laptop?

Yep! We released an announcement around starting shipments of this two weeks ago. Our blog post this week was just a round-up of benchmarks both from reviewers and from us, to respond to common questions we got around performance improvements.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#32

Post by nrp » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

procodr wrote: post #8

For "Linux kernel compilation speed" they have compared a 16 GB model with 64 GB model for achieving 102.60% improvement! It's so funny =)

Yes, we intended to do an apples to apples comparison, but didn’t find the necessary units on hand when writing the post.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#33

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

stewbrew wrote: post #22

What I don't like about framework notebooks is that they seem to be mostly interested in speed, which is why they seemed to choose these P-series CPUs. With a notebook, I'm much more interested in energy consumption (how long can I work off grid), emissions like fan noise and the like. Why no U-series CPUs?

[deleted]

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#34

Post by BaseballPhysics » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

mmmeff wrote: post #21

Cool, now compare it to an M2

Cool, now show me upgrading your M1 to an M2.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#35

Post by zionic » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:22 AM UTC

stewbrew wrote: post #22

What I don't like about framework notebooks is that they seem to be mostly interested in speed, which is why they seemed to choose these P-series CPUs. With a notebook, I'm much more interested in energy consumption (how long can I work off grid), emissions like fan noise and the like. Why no U-series CPUs?

Well then you are minority.

I want a portable desktop, speed I can bring with me without lugging my 35lb liquid cooler setup with its 4x140mm radiator.

I want something compact and sexy but insanely fast when I “dock” it

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#36

Post by selectodude » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:23 AM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #30

nominusllc wrote: post #2

I went from saying, "if only they had an AMD" to getting a different machine in ARM and now im saying "if only they had ARM". I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before. A framework laptop with some type of ARM or ARM-like cpu could do a lot with the space savings on cooling.

I have absolutely no data or information to back this up, but I predict a RISC-V based Framework within the next 5 years. And I'll be one of the first customers to buy one.

Why wait?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/first-risc-v-laptop-...

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#37

Post by travisgriggs » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:23 AM UTC

hiyer wrote: post #14

jjtheblunt wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately? as in no competition to drive progress?

Or if you want to use ARM but don't want to be tied to the Apple ecosystem.

Or if you want to use Apple but don’t want to be tied to the Arm ecosystem.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#38

Post by bwhitty » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

itvision wrote: post #19

For MT performance and graphics Ryzen 5800U and 6800U are even better.

6800U is awesome from what I’ve seen — better efficiency by far, and legit integrated graphics better than Xe — but it is vanishingly rare, even months after announcement.

The scale Intel has in manufacturing mobile CPUs is still unmatched.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#39

Post by zingplex » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

procodr wrote: post #8

For "Linux kernel compilation speed" they have compared a 16 GB model with 64 GB model for achieving 102.60% improvement! It's so funny =)

Would increasing the RAM really make that big a difference in terms of kernel compilation time? It feels to me that 16GB should be plenty for any sort of caching that will speed things up.

Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?

#40

Post by scarface74 » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 4:24 AM UTC

bpodgursky wrote: post #29

jxi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s pretty bad compared to m1. Less than half the battery life. Also Samsung laptops don’t last in my experience. They make short term tradeoffs at the expense of long term reliability.

Maybe, but 4-5 hours is solidly the point at which it doesn't matter at all to me. I haven't had trouble finding an outlet for years, even at airports, planes, coffeeshops, etc.

I travel a lot. That’s going to be increasing by the end of the year as my wife and I live the digital nomad life flying across the US. The freedom of not having to worry about your battery life for a day of real world use is amazing. I’ve only had that over the years with an iPad before ARM Macs.

Not to mention your laptop not getting hot enough to boil eggs or sounding like a 747 when you open too ,any Chrome tabs.