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Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by debesyla »

IncRnd wrote: post #244
debesyla wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) 'simple' wikipedia isn't 'main' wikipedia - same as any other language wikipedias. 2) You can edit and fix mistakes if you see that as a mistake.

1) Nobody said anything about qualifying what wikipedia is. However, this is wikipedia, as one can see by looking at the domain in the url, wikipedia.org. Even so, there are many pages that cover tesla at wikipedia.org. Besides, if you just google for, "What companies has Elon Musk founded?" without quotes you will get a google listing of companies founded by Elon Musk. The very first of those is Tesla! 2) That was t…

Okay, fair point about the second part - my mistake indeed.

But I have to push back about the first part. The throwawayaug8 did say "According to Wikipedia Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. That's how reliable Wikipedia is" - which I understood as a claim that "Wikipedia is unreliable". Then marak830 claimed that such claim is wrong and IncRnd claimed that the original claim is true because 'Simple' Wikipedia has an article with such text.

But I just have to disagree here - I believe that the 'main' Wikipedia is mostly or more accurate than any other Wikipedia - be it 'simple' or 'lithuanian' (https://lt.wikipedia.org/).

I believe that it's unfair to judge the main wikipedia project by using it's smaller 'translation' branches - the main one has hundreds of thousands of contributtors, and smaller wikipedias have way less.

In a same way I wouldn't say that whole javascript is bad because there are some bad frameworks that are based on it.

But I don't know, I am not an expert, I'm just a random wikipedia user :shrug_emoji:

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by namrog84 »

starik36 wrote: post #128
bragr wrote: post #11

There's a reason wikipedia classifies IMDB as an unreliable source. Apparently Michael Madsen has a real problem with people adding him to films in production in an effort to get financing. https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Michael-Madsen-Hates-IMD...

I was an extra in an indie film because a friend asked me to help out. Lo and behold - I now have an IMDB page - presumably the film producer added me. Fast forward a year and now there are 5 films credited to my name. I had nothing to do with 4 of them. I am unclear how and why this is happening.

I've had 2 LinkedIn accounts since the early days.

There was a brief time that my 2nd account showed as endorsing my other one. Despite me never doing such a thing.

Probably a bug but I know I've heard lots of similar stories and I'm always sus of just automated engagement in any social media curated or created site. Including imdb.

Its 1 thing when its bots, its another when its real accounts.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by bigiain »

synu wrote: post #248
yunohn wrote: post #228

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I didn’t interpret “show up” as having purchased tickets and planned to enter, rather unintentionally get let in as was their implication.

Show up can just mean arrive, no implication one way or the other.

Yeah. These would all have been "show up and pay at the door" type places, not sold out weeks in advance with pre-booked tickets. Bouncer (or sometimes door bitch) takes your money, unless the bouncer waves you through.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by loeg »

palimpsests wrote: post #218
rurban wrote: post #113

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Indian fake ratings are a big thing, but from my own experience collecting good ratings, I can attest that keeping fakes out if the system is a big effort, and it cannot be done manually. I implemented a complicated but fair statistical system to keep fake ratings out from my site. But I'm only doing the top 3 film festivals, not all the crap. The manual blacklist is still huge. In the west the biggest offender is A2…

it seems you left out a few words: > In my opinion, the top Indian movies are usually better than the best Western movies.

If it wasn't his opinion, he wouldn't say it.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by fsckboy »

markrages wrote: post #177
fsckboy wrote: post #84

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in English it's relatively common to verbify. If you figure out a reliable way to get backstage, you can thereafter backstage whenever you want.

"Verbing weirds language."

fwiw, the definition of verbing mentions verbing nouns specifically. You weirdoed the usage.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by gamblor956 »

BeetleB wrote: post #247
gamblor956 wrote: post #246

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The questions align chronologically with his misfortunes, essentially providing a roadmap of the major events that determined the course of his life. Yes, they're lucky. It's a game show. A large part of trivia game shows is a matter of luck with respect to the questions asked. But the point of the movie was that his luck on the game show was good karma for the decisions he made at the major points of his life. (Cont…

> But the point of the movie was that his luck on the game show was good karma for the decisions he made at the major points of his life. (Contrast with his brother.) Sure, but perhaps very unsatisfying to a Western audience where one wants stronger connections between decisions and consequences. Consider "It's a Wonderful Life": Although the struggles and misfortunes were not that great, it's also a movie where the…

Slmudog Millionaire was 91% approval on Rotten Tomatoes, grossed $378 million, was nominated for 8 Oscars and won Best Picture, won 7 of the 11 BAFTA Awards for which it was nominated including Best Picture, and launched the careers of both of its stars.

Humbly, I suggest that "western audiences" enjoyed the movie a great deal and had no problems with it and that the issues you are having are your own and stem from your inability to understand the thematic issues of the movie rather than a failure of the movie itself.

Interesting that you cite Forrest Gump as your example, since your problems with Slumdog are the same problems that I have with Forrest Gump: it jumps so quickly through Forrest's life that it fails to meaningfully explore the significance of any of the individual moments of his life other than his connection to Bubba and Sarge.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

bragr wrote: post #241
debesyla wrote: post #214

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[citation needed] Just kidding. But I do wonder - what parts are you talking about? Like some specific languages? Or topics?

This is such a well known phenomenon I feel it falls under the "sky is blue" exception. However, here's a good example: a specific group of contributors active on pages about composers really don't like infoboxes. Despite being clear (to me) across most topics and languages that there's strong consensus on the use of infoboxes, they will not allow them on any composer's biography. Seriously pick out some random compo…

Oh my god that's exhausting

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by SixDouble5321 »

hackernewds wrote: post #49
technothrasher wrote: post #47

I looked my own name up on IMDB and found that I had starred in a soft-core gay porn movie. I was intrigued, but somewhat disappointed that I didn't remember any of it. Also disappointed that it seems to have been the start and end of my illustrious film career.

There could be others with the same name as you?

I believe the correct question is: "what is the name of the film?" I'd expect you of all people would be interested in hacker nudes.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by tresqotheq »

worthless-trash wrote: post #182
tresqotheq wrote: post #168

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Yes, it is called "Marketing". And the world runs on it.

There is a difference between marketing and lying yo. The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character.

>There is a difference between marketing and lying yo

In a perfect world, there should be. But sadly we don't live in that world.

> The fact that you can't tell the difference speaks volumes for your moral character.

I seem to have hit a nerve there. Sorry if I ruined your day or something..

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by UIUC_06 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #256
BeetleB wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But the point of the movie was that his luck on the game show was good karma for the decisions he made at the major points of his life. (Contrast with his brother.) Sure, but perhaps very unsatisfying to a Western audience where one wants stronger connections between decisions and consequences. Consider "It's a Wonderful Life": Although the struggles and misfortunes were not that great, it's also a movie where the…

Slmudog Millionaire was 91% approval on Rotten Tomatoes, grossed $378 million, was nominated for 8 Oscars and won Best Picture, won 7 of the 11 BAFTA Awards for which it was nominated including Best Picture, and launched the careers of both of its stars. Humbly, I suggest that "western audiences" enjoyed the movie a great deal and had no problems with it and that the issues you are having are your own and stem from y…

I'm mostly staying out of this, but I can't resist this one:

Please don't ever use a Rotten Tomatoes score as "proving" anything.

People are entitled to their opinions, and Rotten Tomatoes is just an average of a bunch of nobodies who happened to get a "critic" gig at some media outlet. OP didn't like the movie, while I did (and you did).

The substantive arguments about western audiences and Danny Boyle are fine, too. Bring 'em on. But don't use external awards as "proof" of anything.

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