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Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by 7speter »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #72
7speter wrote: post #68

I remember imdb being meticulous in its record keeping ~15 years ago/before it got bought by Amazon (though its quality held up for at least a few years after). I remember looking up details for kinda obscure movies and talent, and my mind being blown when info for either was listed. Now, it takes years to see the filmography of a given actor from a streaming show.

> ~15 years ago/before it got bought by Amazon They were bought by Amazon 24 years ago now, in 1998.

Guess thats the Mandela Effect in action :). It was a lot better for a time until maybe 2010 and went downhill.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by misnome »

dvt wrote: post #88
MichaelCollins wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of the day it's about protecting their bottom line.

> I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. Not really sure I see this. Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, etc. base their entire business model on the masses creating content. Sure there's a Pareto distribution when it comes to creators vs consumers, but the platforms certainly make money from (and encourage) both.

Right, it seems much more likely that if it isn’t your primary business model, it’s just not worth the hassle?

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by mpclark »

chrisseaton wrote: post #73
wyldfire wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should read this like "man fools { security-to-the-backstage }" not "man fools { security } in order to backstage ".

But in British English ‘security to backstage’ would usually be ‘security for backstage’ or ‘backstage security’.

This is a headline, not British English ;)

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by [deleted] »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #80
squarefoot wrote: post #66

IMDB lost all my respect many years ago when they made clear with their actions that they support fake reviews. When the problem started to grow beyond the occasional vandalism, they still had a very effective discussion section in which users soon began to expose fake reviews. Their response? Of course remove the discussion section! IMDB today has some use for their database only; but they lost any credibility on ev…

Comment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of the day it's about protecting their bottom line.

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Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by tailspin2019 »

squarefoot wrote: post #66

IMDB lost all my respect many years ago when they made clear with their actions that they support fake reviews. When the problem started to grow beyond the occasional vandalism, they still had a very effective discussion section in which users soon began to expose fake reviews. Their response? Of course remove the discussion section! IMDB today has some use for their database only; but they lost any credibility on ev…

Yes their ratings used to be quite useful but it’s the clear that people have been gaming the system for quite some time now.

I’m amazed to have just found out that they’re owned by Amazon (from other comments here). I can’t believe I never realised that.

I guess that the increasingly meaningless ratings and reviews should have been a massive clue…

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by rapind »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #80
squarefoot wrote: post #66

IMDB lost all my respect many years ago when they made clear with their actions that they support fake reviews. When the problem started to grow beyond the occasional vandalism, they still had a very effective discussion section in which users soon began to expose fake reviews. Their response? Of course remove the discussion section! IMDB today has some use for their database only; but they lost any credibility on ev…

Comment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of the day it's about protecting their bottom line.

> I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating.

No, it’s about moderation cost and preventing discussions that can hurt their brand or partners or customers. Also SEO spam whackamole.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by netsharc »

tyingq wrote: post #3

I wonder how many people have successfully bootstrapped acting gigs this way. Perhaps not the guy in the example, as his various poorly written bios expose him. But surely there are people that are better at this game.

Why even bother with getting an acting gig where they'll figure out you can't even act? Just fake the fame (is it fake if Google says it's real?), and get free meals, etc (hah, I guess Instagram was the platform for this a while ago).

There are people like the fake heiress Anna Sorokin who faked being wealthy, who's even getting movie deals after being caught, but never admitting to being wrong (this statement not checked for accuracy, I just noticed an interview where she seems to be claiming it's all been a misunderstanding). The world's a funny place.

A Formula 1 racer got his career started when he got himself a lift with 2 bosses of 2 different teams - each of them thought he was friends with the other guy. He talked his way into a driving job, but of course, once there, he had to show he could race.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by 411111111111111 »

humaniania wrote: post #57
dav_Oz wrote: post #14

I remember the imdb-ratings on movies from India were also absurdly high, I brushed it off as a cultural thing back then; but unfortunately [0] the rigging seems to be norm on imdb across the board (not limited to India). [0] https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/the-kashmir...

After Amazon bought IMDB it became more about advertising for movies and less about being a database. Same thing as when Warner Bros and Universal Studios (via its parent Comcast) bought RottenTomatoes. Now everything brags about it's RT rating when it's coming from 2 movie studios...

RT at least still has viewer ratings. You predictably can't sort by them but it's at least an indicator if the reviewer and viewer score are on completely different heights.

And you've got trakt.tv now too, not sure if anyone owns that

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by nostromo »

rapind wrote: post #96
MichaelCollins wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of the day it's about protecting their bottom line.

> I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than creating. No, it’s about moderation cost and preventing discussions that can hurt their brand or partners or customers. Also SEO spam whackamole.

For prominent news sites, controlling the narrative was a big motivation in removing comments.

Many journalists were open about how they didn’t like how comments would question the data or conclusions in their articles. There were too many heckling comments from the peanut gallery so they closed it entirely.

Re: Fake IMDB credits

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Post by wenbin »

This kind of happens in the podcast world as well.

Many people/companies create fake podcasts and submit to all podcast directories / apps. The main purpose is to do blackhat SEO - links in the rss feed will be syndicated to podcast directory sites / apps.

In fact, any "directory of something" sites will be gamed if user created contents are allowed, e.g., directory of movies / podcasts / local businesses / books...

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