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Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by cuteboy19 »

MerelyMortal wrote: post #18

Michael Burry is notorius for deleting his tweets, so the HN post link will soon be broken. This is a copy in an archive of his tweets: https://mobile.twitter.com/BurryArchive/status/1556004280695... (I think he deletes his tweets to stop scammers from posting crypto scams in the replies.)

> Cassandra B.C.

Cassandra was the priestess who warned the Trojans about the warriors in the Horse but she was ignored. She was blessed with the gift of true prophecy but also cursed that no one would believe her.

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

cuteboy19 wrote: post #16
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And do you think the most oppressed had the chance to immigrate to America?

Your point is very valid considering the caste distribution of Indian Americans. However, The homicide rate of India proper is 2.9 cases per 100,000 population. That of Asian Americans is about the same. The rate for African Americans is around 18

I bet you could find a subpopulation of India that is responsible of most of the homicides in the country. I bet you'd also find a lot of poverty, systemic oppression and alienation from society in that group. Then you'd start to perhaps understand the issue more broadly than by the color of skin.

However, if you are motivated by ... other things, I'm sure you can just jump to conclusions and tell us all the statistics you have about African Americans.

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

illuminerdy wrote: post #13
ralusek wrote: post #4

There is almost nothing that bothers me more than the control of information. At least with this issue, however, the reasoning as to why data is being manipulated is so abundantly clear that there is actually virtually no loss of information for the time being. The reality is that Asians largely constitute a problem for the prevailing narrative around racial and ethnic power dynamics. Indians, for example, despite be…

> "For one, it has been well established that the "racial" group that is overrepresented in violence against Asians is not "white" people." Its a typical tactic of the media and the globalist. Find a problem, but instead of dealing with the real cause, find some way to turn it towards attacking the desired group. They did it with "black lives matter" except its summertime and every weekend for a decade you could find…

I think the point of BLM was to draw attention to the police violence against black people.

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by cat_plus_plus »

Why should we feed the troll? The poster has not provided evidence of ill intent and government is not obligated to break down data in every possible way. The link is for violent crime stats in general, not hate crime in particular, maybe there is just not a lot of crime in Asian communities to break that out separately?

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Post by rayiner »

It’s part of a broader effort to manipulate Asians’ perceptions about facts relevant to their self interest. Asians are half as likely to be shot by police than whites, and a third less likely to be incarcerated. The cost-benefit curves for Asians when it comes to policing and criminal justice are markedly different than for other voter groups. And that’s a problem for maintaining the Biden coalition.

So what happened when attacks on Asians in progressive cities went up in 2020? Purported “asian” activists put solidarity with white progressives ahead of representing the people they claim to represent: https://www.slowboring.com/p/yang-gang

That makes sense when you think about it. People in Chinatowns don’t identify as “AAPI” and have never heard of these organizations. They exist to raise money from white progressives and put Asian faces on their politics: https://asamnews.com/2021/06/17/mackenzie-scott-donates-2-7-...

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by coryrc »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #22
cuteboy19 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your point is very valid considering the caste distribution of Indian Americans. However, The homicide rate of India proper is 2.9 cases per 100,000 population. That of Asian Americans is about the same. The rate for African Americans is around 18

I bet you could find a subpopulation of India that is responsible of most of the homicides in the country. I bet you'd also find a lot of poverty, systemic oppression and alienation from society in that group. Then you'd start to perhaps understand the issue more broadly than by the color of skin. However, if you are motivated by ... other things, I'm sure you can just jump to conclusions and tell us all the statisti…

> I bet you could find

It seems you base your beliefs on things you imagine instead of facts.

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by throwaway220807 »

hasty wrote: post #8
unethical_ban wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see in the 2020 report the same chart, breaking down race for victim and offender. Am I missing it?

It's there (table 5); it's just formatted differently. Presumably the original poster decided not to include it, as it added the footnote "Victims of other races are not shown separately due to small numbers of sample cases", which doesn't fit his framing.

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Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by twic »

hasty wrote: post #8
unethical_ban wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see in the 2020 report the same chart, breaking down race for victim and offender. Am I missing it?

It's there (table 5); it's just formatted differently. Presumably the original poster decided not to include it, as it added the footnote "Victims of other races are not shown separately due to small numbers of sample cases", which doesn't fit his framing.

What document are you talking about here? In the "full report" [1] table 5 is "Rate of victimization reported and not reported to police, by type of crime, 2019–2020", and has nothing about race.

This document doesn't contain any equivalent of the cross-tabulations contained in the tweet, as far as i can tell.

[1] https://bjs.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh236/files/media/docu...

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by coryrc »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #10
coryrc wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many Indian subpopulations have been oppressed for multiple times longer than the United States even existed, yet don't have the same problems. Why do you have such low expectations for a population with 5x the murder rate?

And do you think the most oppressed had the chance to immigrate to America?

I cannot find evidence Dalits in America (recently only 1.5% of immigrants) are committing crimes above the baseline rate in the USA; it's hard to search because most information is about them being victims of crime.

Re: The government is burying the anti-Asian violent hate crime crisis

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Post by alphabettsy »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #23
illuminerdy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "For one, it has been well established that the "racial" group that is overrepresented in violence against Asians is not "white" people." Its a typical tactic of the media and the globalist. Find a problem, but instead of dealing with the real cause, find some way to turn it towards attacking the desired group. They did it with "black lives matter" except its summertime and every weekend for a decade you could find…

I think the point of BLM was to draw attention to the police violence against black people.

I’m sure they’re aware. They’re missing the part where a lack of police accountability erodes the community trust in policing perpetuating a vicious cycle.
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