Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

Post by rbanffy » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 2:48 PM UTC

hotpotamus wrote: post #42

horsawlarway wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly - this is where I am. The system falls apart if it can't enforce its own rules, and if we don't see some serious perjury charges here, I think it's a very bad sign. The message will no longer be: It's unacceptable to cheat and lie to win. It will be: Cheat and lie better. -- edit: I'd like to see at least two felony perjury charges against Jones. Ideally with max sentences.

I always wonder what truly unlimited free speech would mean. How is it possible that perjury would be a crime? Fraud - just free speech right? And if money is speech, then corruption is just free speech as well. It doesn't really feel like it breaks the system down, it's more like does/did the system even exist?

Post by DaiPlusPlus » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 2:49 PM UTC

akatechis wrote: post #17

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #3

I hope they throw the book at him for punitive damages as well. Maybe then people will learn you don't get to sit there spouting blatant lies without consequence. I thought forwarding his messages to the jan6 committee was just a stunt but apparently there's some juicy stuff in there. Will be interesting to see what comes out of it.

> Maybe then people will learn you don't get to sit there spouting blatant lies without consequence. That is partly true. The ruling class gets to lie with impunity whenever they want, for profit or power. Remember WMDs in Iraq? And Iran has been "6 months away from a nuclear bomb" for the past 50 years.

Post by bena » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 2:49 PM UTC

faeriechangling wrote: post #60

Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

Having followed the case, him being absolutely demolished in court repeatedly is no shock given his brazen contempt for the court system and his refusal to abide by any sort of law or rules. I’m most shocked at his own sheer self-destructiveness. What is he going to do now? Claim the courts conspired against him?

Post by vlovich123 » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 2:50 PM UTC

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #61

fellowniusmonk wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, I guess lying under oath is no big deal? I always thought it mattered. I was deposed to give testimony once in a dispute between two other parties and it was nerve wracking to give testimony about a few questions because it was stuff I hadn't thought about in a couple of year. Turns out it's no big deal to lie under oath? This is really troubling, how can we have the rule of law if lying under oath is allowed f…

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that judges sorta know that people who are being sued or prosecuted are not exactly going to be reliable witnesses if they testify, and that it'd probably be a bigger deal if this were one of Jones' associates who wasn't on the hook for the money. There's also plenty of time for the judge to dial up some perjury referrals.

Post by Justsignedup » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 2:51 PM UTC

Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.