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Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by superb-owl »

Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

This is a pretty good profile: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/magazine/alex-jones-infow...

That disabused me of the notion of Jones as an Evil Genius. He's just an alcohol-and-attention-fueled nut.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by superb-owl »

drexlspivey wrote: post #10
Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

I am astounded how someone can sit on the stand and spew lie after lie after lie under oath with no repercussions.

I mean...$4M is definitely a repercussion. But yeah, TBH he should probably spend time in jail.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by tennisflyi »

bambax wrote: post #6
lalaland1125 wrote: post #2

That's probably still a net profit for Alex Jones. According to the documents discussed in court he makes $800,000 a day from his show. If anything, he probably made more covering his own trial than what the trial cost.

Is this from advertising, or are people buying things directly from him? That companies would advertise their wares next to such an absolute shame of a man is beyond comprehension.

Both and it ain't exactly the best wares - it's a step above penis growth ads and similar...

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by saint_abroad »

lalaland1125 wrote: post #2

That's probably still a net profit for Alex Jones. According to the documents discussed in court he makes $800,000 a day from his show. If anything, he probably made more covering his own trial than what the trial cost.

> his companies were earning about $800,000 a day selling diet supplements, gun paraphernalia and survivalist equipment.

It's almost as if Jones' show is a binary classification filter for chumps https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/why-do-...

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by horsawlarway »

drexlspivey wrote: post #10
Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

I am astounded how someone can sit on the stand and spew lie after lie after lie under oath with no repercussions.

Frankly - this is where I am.

The system falls apart if it can't enforce its own rules, and if we don't see some serious perjury charges here, I think it's a very bad sign.

The message will no longer be: It's unacceptable to cheat and lie to win.

It will be: Cheat and lie better.

-- edit: I'd like to see at least two felony perjury charges against Jones. Ideally with max sentences.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by kordlessagain »

drexlspivey wrote: post #10
Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

I am astounded how someone can sit on the stand and spew lie after lie after lie under oath with no repercussions.

His functional processes are corrupt.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by akatechis »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #3

I hope they throw the book at him for punitive damages as well. Maybe then people will learn you don't get to sit there spouting blatant lies without consequence. I thought forwarding his messages to the jan6 committee was just a stunt but apparently there's some juicy stuff in there. Will be interesting to see what comes out of it.

> Maybe then people will learn you don't get to sit there spouting blatant lies without consequence.

That is partly true. The ruling class gets to lie with impunity whenever they want, for profit or power. Remember WMDs in Iraq? And Iran has been "6 months away from a nuclear bomb" for the past 50 years.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by fellowniusmonk »

drexlspivey wrote: post #10
Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

I am astounded how someone can sit on the stand and spew lie after lie after lie under oath with no repercussions.

yeah, I guess lying under oath is no big deal? I always thought it mattered.

I was deposed to give testimony once in a dispute between two other parties and it was nerve wracking to give testimony about a few questions because it was stuff I hadn't thought about in a couple of year.

Turns out it's no big deal to lie under oath?

This is really troubling, how can we have the rule of law if lying under oath is allowed for some people?

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by andsoitis »

Loughla wrote: post #4

So all the memes aside, is anyone else astounded at how poorly that went for Alex Jones? Just a shit-show nearly the entire time. From his terrible legal representation, to his own terrible testimony. Just a mess. I mean, his 'on-air' personality is a mess, but I always sort of thought it was just a show. It's interesting to me that it turned out he really is just an absolute train-wreck of a person.

> but I always sort of thought it was just a show

Ah. Now think about the other people who you also think are just putting on a show... No, this isn't acting, it is being.

Re: Alex Jones must pay $4M in damages for Sandy Hook hoax claims

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Post by pibechorro »

dawnerd wrote: post #7
lalaland1125 wrote: post #2

That's probably still a net profit for Alex Jones. According to the documents discussed in court he makes $800,000 a day from his show. If anything, he probably made more covering his own trial than what the trial cost.

That per day figure is misleading since it was a particularly good couple of days. But yeah he still made tons of money over the years at the families’ expense.

Over years? Nah. He covered it, fracked up, took it back and moved on. Its the trial tha keeps it in the spotlight.
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