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Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by Teever »

huffer wrote: post #128
gurchik wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it wasn't real. Cypher says ignorance is bliss but that's the opposite that everyone else feels. They'd rather eat slop they know is real. Even the suggestion of trying to go back to the Matrix willingly was seen as a betrayal. Mouse offers to set up a private meeting between Neo and the Lady in Red but he doesn't accept and we never heard of anyone else accepting.

But indeed, if they had the _option_ to escape from reality from time to time, people like Cypher would be happier (I know I am when I do it :D). Indeed the irony of partaking precisely in the thing that you fight against is there; however, what they actually fight against is the enslavement by it, not the casual enjoyment of it: it's bad to be a medieval serf forced to toil the soil, it's quite another thing to play…

Agent Smith: Do we have a deal, Mr. Reagan?

Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn’t exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.

Agent Smith: Then we have a deal?

Cypher: I don’t want to remember nothing. Nothing. You understand? And I want to be rich. You know, someone important. Like an actor.

Agent Smith: Whatever you want, Mr. Reagan.

Cypher: Okay. I get my body back into a power plant, re-insert me into the Matrix, I’ll get you what you want.

Cypher didn't just want to eat fake steak, to him that wasn't enough. Ignorance is bliss. He wanted to eat fake steak and not know that it was fake.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by drusepth »

namuol wrote: post #12

From 2020, so not sure how up to date this is: “Solar Foods is a Finland-based start-up company that utilises CO2 captured from air, water and some minerals as sole raw materials to produce a protein powder using renewable electricity. Branded as Solein®, the product is a microbial protein (also referred to as single cell protein, SCP) obtained by growing proprietary bacteria harvested from nature, in specially desig…

It's kind of mind-blowing they're apparently so cognizant of not using the word "bacteria", yet they're perfectly fine with referring to their Soylent-esque magic protein dust as "SCP".

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by koliber »

fidgetspinner wrote: post #124

Has anyone been able to locate the actual nutritional information in a serving size of this stuff? Actual carb, protein, and fat calorie counts, sugars, significant vitamins, etc?

Their other website ( https://solarfoods.com/science/ ) has some of the info you are looking for:

PROTEIN 65-70 %

FAT 5-8 %

DIETARY FIBRES 10-15 %

MINERAL NUTRIENTS 3-5%

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by seu »

>Sorry, plants. > Conventional food production wastes resources like water, chemicals, animal feed at unsustainable and unreasonable levels.

Animal feed to grow plant-based protein?

> Unlike conventional protein production, it takes just a fraction of all these resources if any, to produce the same nutritional amount of Solein. Even photosynthesis, the way plants convert energy into food, is not as efficient as our method.

So... they use magical electricity that comes out of nowhere, and operates more efficiently that just letting a plant sit there and use the sun.

Amazing how these people blatantly lie and present half-facts so shamelessly.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by kseistrup »

Animats wrote: post #24

Most vegetation is made out of air and water. Mostly air. C, O, and N come from air. H comes from water, and some of that comes from water in air. The inputs from dirt are under 5% of plant mass. They have to be, or farms would dig holes in the ground. Feynman talk on this.[1] So, with that out of the way, what does this company actually have? * They have a cool web site with no useful info. * They have another web s…

Does anyone here know which single celled organism they're using? Is it as fungus, like the one that is used in making quorn?

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by kseistrup »

kseistrup wrote: post #135
Animats wrote: post #24

Most vegetation is made out of air and water. Mostly air. C, O, and N come from air. H comes from water, and some of that comes from water in air. The inputs from dirt are under 5% of plant mass. They have to be, or farms would dig holes in the ground. Feynman talk on this.[1] So, with that out of the way, what does this company actually have? * They have a cool web site with no useful info. * They have another web s…

Does anyone here know which single celled organism they're using? Is it as fungus, like the one that is used in making quorn?

It seems to be knallgas bacteria: https://wikiless.org/wiki/Hydrogen_oxidizing_bacteria#Knallg...

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by dsign »

I'm willing to believe it is good nutrition and low footprint for the environment. But the cultural footprint is too high, just look at this forum!

Our cultural archetypes are rich, see which you would do for a few days and which you would do daily:

  * dawn at a mountain cabin overlooking the town below, no running water [vs] dawn at a modern apartment in a block full of buildings. 

  * food grown in plants, in fields tended by people and fertilized with manure  [vs] food grown in a vat.

  * A week hiking [vs] a week going to the gym.

  * Being socially approved by one day marrying at a church [vs] living with whoever you fancy every day for the rest of your life.

  * Eating cabbage [vs] eating protein dust made with genetically modified bacteria that tastes like chocolate dough.

  * Eating genetically modified cabbage that tastes like chocolate dough [vs] eating protein dust made with genetically modified bacteria that tastes like cabbage.
I would rather that we have all the choices.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by OliverM »

collegeburner wrote: post #122
juliangamble wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I've heard something similar in a science fiction movie... "It's a single celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins, and minerals. Everything the body needs." ... "If you close your eyes, it almost feels like you're eating runny eggs." "Yeah, or a bowl of snot."

i'm wondering if it's a complete protein or not. a lot of plant proteins are low or lack methionene tryptophan and lysine, also are kinda lower in isoleucine and valine. a complete plant based protein that's not soy would be nice.

Quinoa?

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Post by zweifuss »

seu wrote: post #134

>Sorry, plants. > Conventional food production wastes resources like water, chemicals, animal feed at unsustainable and unreasonable levels. Animal feed to grow plant-based protein? > Unlike conventional protein production, it takes just a fraction of all these resources if any, to produce the same nutritional amount of Solein. Even photosynthesis, the way plants convert energy into food, is not as efficient as our m…

Conversion efficiency from solar radiation to dry matter is estimated for soy beans at 2.1%. Solar Foods claims 10 times more energy-efficient per hectare than photosynthesis with soy production. If you assume 22% efficient solar panels and a longer growing season, because solar panels are less temperature and water dependent than plants, this might just work out.
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