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Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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> Solein® is made from natural single-cell organisms, which are grown in a fermentation process. Water is split from the air with renewable electricity into hydrogen and oxygen. The cells are fed CO2 from the air, hydrogen and mineral nutrients. There is no nitrogen mentioned in this explanation. You cannot make amino acids or proteins without nitrogen. These organism either have to be able to do nitrogen-fixation fr…

I think I've heard something similar in a science fiction movie... "It's a single celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins, and minerals. Everything the body needs." ... "If you close your eyes, it almost feels like you're eating runny eggs." "Yeah, or a bowl of snot."

i'm wondering if it's a complete protein or not. a lot of plant proteins are low or lack methionene tryptophan and lysine, also are kinda lower in isoleucine and valine. a complete plant based protein that's not soy would be nice.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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You have to wonder why they didn't just jack into their local instance of the Matrix to eat lunch, while the goop goes in through a food tube or whatever.

Yes! That's long been my biggest criticism of The Matrix, much more than the whole "but humans would make terrible batteries" thing. The whole motivation of Cypher is because he wants to be plugged back in, and the movie presents it as him being sick and tired and the drab life aboard the ship. But they literally have a VR env that is completely realistic, and can give them any experience they want . The best food, t…

> "but humans would make terrible batteries" thing

I'm not sure if you actually know this, but AFAIK initially the script writers wanted it to be 'the human brain as CPU' but the studio was afraid the general movie populace (back in 1999) wouldn't know what a CPU was and thus wouldn't jive with it.

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You have to wonder why they didn't just jack into their local instance of the Matrix to eat lunch, while the goop goes in through a food tube or whatever.

Yes! That's long been my biggest criticism of The Matrix, much more than the whole "but humans would make terrible batteries" thing. The whole motivation of Cypher is because he wants to be plugged back in, and the movie presents it as him being sick and tired and the drab life aboard the ship. But they literally have a VR env that is completely realistic, and can give them any experience they want . The best food, t…

The biggest thing cypher wanted was to forget first, that’s the only way he could handle it after knowing the truth. Unreal can never be as good as real.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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This may seem like it is totally unrelated to grid stabilization for intermittent renewables (solar, wind, ...) but this type of technology could radically change the need to store and release energy. microbes, bacteria etc are extremely resilient to temporary adversity, when theres a surplus of intermittent energy you can feed them the energy, when there is insufficient energy you can let the cells wait for their ne…

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Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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Yes! That's long been my biggest criticism of The Matrix, much more than the whole "but humans would make terrible batteries" thing. The whole motivation of Cypher is because he wants to be plugged back in, and the movie presents it as him being sick and tired and the drab life aboard the ship. But they literally have a VR env that is completely realistic, and can give them any experience they want . The best food, t…

Because it wasn't real. Cypher says ignorance is bliss but that's the opposite that everyone else feels. They'd rather eat slop they know is real. Even the suggestion of trying to go back to the Matrix willingly was seen as a betrayal. Mouse offers to set up a private meeting between Neo and the Lady in Red but he doesn't accept and we never heard of anyone else accepting.

But indeed, if they had the _option_ to escape from reality from time to time, people like Cypher would be happier (I know I am when I do it :D). Indeed the irony of partaking precisely in the thing that you fight against is there; however, what they actually fight against is the enslavement by it, not the casual enjoyment of it: it's bad to be a medieval serf forced to toil the soil, it's quite another thing to play gardener to take your mind off the day..

They have an unsophisticated, binary view of the world (for plot reasons, I guess) while some nuance and tolerance would have had made a more realistic and_human_take on the situation.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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"It's not 'everything the body needs'..." (eyeroll)

I always took it as a list.... It has A, B, C, D... (Without the "and" before D, it is arguable -- especially for those that like clarity of language -- but people do sometimes drop the "and" in casual speech)

GP was quoting the next line in the movie, not disagreeing with GGP.

Re: Solein – Protein out of thin air

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The competition would be carbon neutral pesticide free soybeans, which I'm not sure are readily available? Soybeans also typically use energy intensive nitrogen fertilizers, which I'm not sure this process requires. (It might, not sure.) Also, soybeans need to be shipped from fertile areas. This could be produced in situ in infertile areas. I'm not saying it's a panacea, but it has some benefits over traditional inte…

> The competition would be carbon neutral pesticide free soybeans, which I'm not sure are readily available? Soybeans also typically use energy intensive nitrogen fertilizers, which I'm not sure this process requires. (It might, not sure.) No it's not. This is the kind of thinking that so many new founders screw up with. The competition is what users are willing to buy instead of you. That's regular soy beans, not wh…

I'm thinking like a consumer, specifically me as a consumer. I do not know how many consumers are like me, but I'm always looking for vegan, well rounded, non industrially farmed, pesticide free protein sources. So far, the leading candidate is pea protein, and while I love soybeans and tofu, it's hard to find soy that is ethically sourced. (Not encumbered with awful genetic patents, for instance.)
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