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Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square, 0 hours at life, daily.

In other words Jack is free to do whatever he likes, but it is not a good example for most of us. I'll cite a very short poetry by a Sicilian poet called Salvatore Quasimodo:

"Everyone stands alone on the heart of the earth / transfixed by a ray of sunshine / and it is suddenly night"

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

#53

This is not something to be idolized. Maybe it works for Jack, or maybe it's really exaggerated but there are going to be people reading this that are going to want to try it. I feel bad for those people. Your first instinct is to think that you can't succeed without killing yourself. Then you figure out that if you're killing yourself youve forgotten why you started to begin with.

I think you succeed by being better than enough other people. If there are enough people this good willing to make that sort of sacrifice, it just makes it that much harder for the competition to keep up.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

#54
Maybe explains why Twitter is so bad at so many things.

Like making money.

Why don't they offer a customized twitter feeds of all the GOP presidential candidates and sell ads off of that feed?

For example...

I have had a strong suspicion that the upper management at Twitter are not really on top of it, they appear lazy, and content with just going along for the ride, instead of steering the what appears to be rudderless ship.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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I posted this in the other thread about his hours: Being a manager and accutely aware of legal ramifications of hours worked (boring I know), does anyone have any insight into whether there is something in the US akin to the European Worktime Directive? Over here (UK, but the E.U as a whole) the average working week is 40 hours by law, and the worker must opt in to be eligble to work upto a maximum of 70 hours per we…

The U.S. has nothing like that for salaried employees.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

#56
Well the schedule looks like its not really "hard" work. When i do all these things in my startup i feel like i am not really working, i only have the feeling of accomplishment when i write code and improve the product. Marketing and Biz dev sure is very important but personally i dont feel like i get stuff done when doing it, which might be bad. Then again i couldnt put in 16 hours of work everyday, thats insane and i cant believe hes doing that for a very long time. After 10-12 hours of coding and working on technical things, i am done for the day. Some sport in the evening to stay healthy and blow off steam and thats it. And even that leaves me with very little real life during the week, which sometimes is frustrating.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

#57

Good for him. Regardless of whether or not it's sustainable, I simply do not want that type of lifestyle. If I'm not as "successful" because of that, so be it.

I simply do not want that type of lifestyle

What kind of lifestyle do you want?

When given the chance, most entrepreneurs will work 16 hours on their company. If you only had 8 hours, you may be more likely to do a better job at managing your time/tasks.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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post #31

That's impressive, but I can't understand how either of these companies are happy with that situation. It's like trying to argue a polygamist can be fully dedicated to both families.

Or it's like arguing that no one could run Apple and Pixar or SpaceX and Tesla.

Jobs ran Apple. He didn't run Pixar. He had a similar title at Pixar, but his role was completely different.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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post #51

Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square, 0 hours at life, daily. In other words Jack is free to do whatever he likes, but it is not a good example for most of us. I'll cite a very short poetry by a Sicilian poet called Salvatore Quasimodo: "Everyone stands alone on the heart of the earth / transfixed by a ray of sunshine / and it is suddenly night"

Can anyone from Square or Twitter confirm this work schedule?

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

#60

I posted this in the other thread about his hours: Being a manager and accutely aware of legal ramifications of hours worked (boring I know), does anyone have any insight into whether there is something in the US akin to the European Worktime Directive? Over here (UK, but the E.U as a whole) the average working week is 40 hours by law, and the worker must opt in to be eligble to work upto a maximum of 70 hours per we…

The U.S. has nothing like that for salaried employees.

IANAL, but I believe the law is slightly more nuanced than that:

http://www.dol.gov/compliance/topics/wages-overtime-pay.htm

Overtime doesn't apply to a number of class of workers (including executive, administration, professional, outside sales, and computer related workers).

And I believe you could read "professional" as "anyone with a college degree working a white-collar job".

Having said that, you're essentially correct...

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